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Originally posted by Diver View Post
WARNING: do not waste money on Office 2008 for Mac - it is utter shyte.
I thought NeoOffice was shyte - and it is - but at least it's free shyte.
If you're on a Mac and need pukka office, run Office 2007 under VMWare fusion. Office 2008 for Mac is so flakey and bug ridden it makes me cry.
You've come right out the other side of the forest of irony and ended up in the desert of wrong.
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Originally posted by bogeyman View PostRe. cheap software: -
WARNING: do not waste money on Office 2008 for Mac - it is utter shyte.
I thought NeoOffice was shyte - and it is - but at least it's free shyte.
If you're on a Mac and need pukka office, run Office 2007 under VMWare fusion. Office 2008 for Mac is so flakey and bug ridden it makes me cry.
Think I'll switch to a Mac laptop when I renew 1 though.Confusion is a natural state of beingComment
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Originally posted by bogeyman View PostI take it you're a Mac user, right?
Originally posted by bogeyman View PostI don't know what you actually do for a living, but I'm mostly a software developer, and I download stuff for my Mac a lot - like daily
Originally posted by bogeyman View PostIf your Mac came with every piece of software you'll ever need then I am truly happy for you, but you're not exactly a demanding user, are you?
I just use a computer for you know that computer studies question you got in high school 'how would you convince a banker who has kept paper records since 1800 that he needs a computer' - well that's me, undemanding profit making entrepreneur"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by Diver View Post
They themselves admitted that the supposed vulnerability didn't affect Apple's wifi drivers, just the drivers for the third-party USB wifi card they'd installed in place of the OS X drivers. They also admitted that they hadn't actually found any vulnerability in Apple's wifi drivers, despite trying to do so. And it has also been suggested that the demonstration of the vulnerability in the third-party card was, in fact, a fraud, and that they demonstrated no such vulnerability - smoke and mirrors.
They were challenged to demonstrate their supposed vulnerability, but they didn't accept the challenge. More on that here.
And just to be clear that I'm even-handed about these matters, you can read some more on this issue that also discusses an example of Apple being unacceptably slow in fixing an actual DHCP vulnerability, five years ago.
Finally: as the guys claiming the exploit refused to tell Apple anything, Apple carried out a security audit of their own code anyway. As a result, they identified some vulnerabilities, none of which were related to the vulnerabilities claimed above, and none of which had apparently previously been identified outside Apple, or ever exploited. These vulnerabilities were fixed in a security update in September 2006.
(BTW, has anybody else noticed that the only two supposed security issues in OS X presented on this thread both came from 2006? As in, two to two-and-a-half-years ago? How many viruses, worms and Trojans has Windows been subject to between then and now?)
It's worth bearing in mind that The Inquirer is to tech news what The Sun is to TRW news: it might be entertaining to read whilst eating your lunch, and for all I know it even tells you what's on telly that night. But expecting to get any grasp of the reality of the world from it is a fool's errand.Comment
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NickFitz - They themselves admitted that the supposed vulnerability didn't affect Apple's wifi drivers, just the drivers for the third-party USB wifi card they'd installed in place of the OS X drivers. They also admitted that they hadn't actually found any vulnerability in Apple's wifi drivers, despite trying to do so. And it has also been suggested that the demonstration of the vulnerability in the third-party card was, in fact, a fraud, and that they demonstrated no such vulnerability - smoke and mirrors.
Originally posted by Diver View PostI use Vista on this and one of my laptops. XP on the other.
Think I'll switch to a Mac laptop when I renew 1 though.Confusion is a natural state of beingComment
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Originally posted by NickFitz View Post(BTW, has anybody else noticed that the only two supposed security issues in OS X presented on this thread both came from 2006? As in, two to two-and-a-half-years ago? How many viruses, worms and Trojans has Windows been subject to between then and now?)
If you are refering to the link I posted then that's not because it was hard to find, it was because it was the first link of thousands that appeared in google when I searched for Mac OS x virus
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Originally posted by bogeyman View PostAs a Mac user I somewhat disagree, but I do think smug complacency could be our (Mac users) downfall when I read some of the previous comments.
Good security practices apply as much to OS X as to Windows or anything else.
Disk Utility
CVE-ID: CVE-2008-2324
Available for: Mac OS X v10.4.11, Mac OS X Server v10.4.11
Impact: A local user may obtain system privileges
Description: The "Repair Permissions" tool in Disk Utility makes /usr/bin/emacs setuid. After the Repair Permissions tool has been run, a local user may use emacs to run commands with system privileges. This update addresses the issue by correcting the permissions applied to emacs in the Repair Permissions tool. This issue does not affect systems running Mac OS X v10.5 and later. Credit to Anton Rang and Brian Timares for reporting this issue.Last edited by Sysman; 19 August 2008, 14:52.Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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Originally posted by Sysman View PostAgreed that it's best not to be too smug. From the notes on Security Update 2008-005, just released (last Friday), among other stuff OS X 10.4.11 had this little gem: ...
Thank goodness it's a local exploit only.
I'm still on Tiger 10.4.11 - holding off on 'Leoptard' as it seems it will break too many things I need.
Must say, Apple OS updates are pretty crappy about backwards compatibility compared with Windows - and you have to pay for what amounts to a cumulative service pack (plus some pointless eye candy).
You've come right out the other side of the forest of irony and ended up in the desert of wrong.
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Originally posted by bogeyman View PostYes that is a gem!
Thank goodness it's a local exploit only.
I'm still on Tiger 10.4.11 - holding off on 'Leoptard' as it seems it will break too many things I need.
Must say, Apple OS updates are pretty crappy about backwards compatibility compared with Windows - and you have to pay for what amounts to a cumulative service pack (plus some pointless eye candy).
A number of these things were improved with incremental releases, including an option to change the way Spaces works to something that fits better with my workflow... but by then I'd given up on it.
However, there are a number of small but significant enhancements to the standard apps that are worth having. For example, I spend a lot of time in Terminal, and it now has tabs - given that I usually have half-a-dozen or more shells (local or remote) open at a time when developing, this is an absolute godsend. Preview has developed some useful image manipulation capabilities, although they were a bit unstable in earlier releases, and then I got the client to install Photoshop anyway, and didn't need them.
I still haven't bothered upgrading my own machine, but when I get around to installing the new hard drive I might do so. But I'll have a play with an in-store display model first, just to see if that slight clunkiness has definitely gone away.
But I miss tabs in Terminal...Comment
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