Azure hosting or similar

[woohoo]

I'd recommend AWS over Azure (I've worked with both), I'd also make sure the server can only be accessed via VPN rather than MSTSC over the public internet.

Happy to help if you need a hand.

Gareth

I'm interested in the reasons why you prefer aws.

[SeanT]

I'm interested in the reasons why you prefer aws.

Because you don't have to deal with Microsoft "support"?

[woohoo]

Because you don't have to deal with Microsoft "support"?

Having dealt with MS support it's hit and miss and can be a pain. But im more interested in the short-comings of azure compared to AWS.

[stek]

Presumably the server end is just a WAR file deployed on JBoss or Websphere, can u not drop it on Linux?

[garethevans1986]

I'm interested in the reasons why you prefer aws.

Azure isnt mature enough compared to AWS, MS are playing catch up with the tech and try to retro fit services into the cloud rather than designing them cloud first like AWS do. It's a nicer platform to use, better management suite, Azure SDKs are a nightmare between versions as they ALWAYS have breaking changes in.

My current client uses Azure and it's a big huge bag of spanners. Hard limits all over the place which is ridiculous - eg 200 Storage Accounts per subscription, Cloud Services etc. Service Fabric only just coming out on Azure, AWS equivilant Elastic Beanstalk has been around for years.

Gareth

[SeanT]

Presumably the server end is just a WAR file deployed on JBoss or Websphere

Why would you assume this? It's just as likely to be ASP or PHP or worse.

[SeanT]

Azure isnt mature enough compared to AWS, MS are playing catch up with the tech and try to retro fit services into the cloud rather than designing them cloud first like AWS do. It's a nicer platform to use, better management suite, Azure SDKs are a nightmare between versions as they ALWAYS have breaking changes in.

My current client uses Azure and it's a big huge bag of spanners. Hard limits all over the place which is ridiculous - eg 200 Storage Accounts per subscription, Cloud Services etc. Service Fabric only just coming out on Azure, AWS equivilant Elastic Beanstalk has been around for years.

Gareth

My little potted summary I just wrote for someone else:

AWS rules the roost on depth and breadth of the services it does offer, but fails on inadequate container orchestration (unless you roll your own), largely un-necessary rebranding of products and vendor lock-in, complicated network stack that's less powerful than the GOOG one, and from what I've seen noisy neighbour issues.

Azure is basically like AWS in many ways - just a little bit less awesome. It's nowhere near as nice to work with, but has good options for M$ shops and of course an awesome AI / data platform with some good USPs mixed in there.

GCP is a bit different - it's not quite as easy to work with as AWS, but the networking and support for container orchestration and a pipeline feeding this is pretty excellent. Add in Cloud Spanner, a world class networking stack, some more AI / ML goodness, good support for open source databases that don't deviate from the original codebase / implementation, and Cloud Console and it's a pretty compelling all rounder. GKE is a bit more limited but it's so nice to be able to use K8S with the hard stuff done for you we'll let them off.

[SeanT]

BTW Spoiler, just what is the application, could I get it to run in a container for you?

[stek]

Why would you assume this? It's just as likely to be ASP or PHP or worse.

From my time at Tosh on the EPOS side of things. Almost everything was built on IBM Sterling Commerce and spat out a WAR file (or EAR) at the end.

Perhaps a bit of a leap of faith...

Anyway I didn't assume, I presumed....

[SeanT]

Anyway I didn't assume, I presumed....

Correct you are sir, you presumptuous person you