Any ASP.NET 2 Experts here?

[mcquiggd]

Some interesting and insightfull comments chaps.
I like the .NET framework, C# and VS.NET, but ASP.NET is just a big turd.

Perhaps it's my fault for not being willing to put in the hours getting to know the ASP.NET beast inside and out, but it seems stupidly over-engineered and (as Monkey says) over-abstracted.

Whatever the technology, I expect to be able to do simple things simply, and quickly, without having to spend weeks learning it's arcane ways.

Well I hope what was posted was helpful.. but I have to say that what you were trying to achieve is very simple... if you look at the code I posted it is basically down to attributes on a control and a single line of C# in the Code Behind.

[HankWangford]

Huge everything (look at the source):

Before TheMonkey: http://www.hificables.co.uk/

After TheMonkey's ASP.Net tuning: http://www.totalcycling.com/

Yes I know the HTML is tulipe - that was production's problem.

eeeek check those 5k href's out...........tuning you called it???
Need a handler for those monkey

[TheMonkey]

eeeek check those 5k href's out...........tuning you called it???
Need a handler for those monkey

Yeah - all in the name of SEO. They do get the top enry on google for nearly ALL products searched which drives their sales to quite astounding levels!

[bogeyman]

Well I hope what was posted was helpful.. but I have to say that what you were trying to achieve is very simple... if you look at the code I posted it is basically down to attributes on a control and a single line of C# in the Code Behind.

Yes, thanks for taking the time mcquiggd.

I will take a good look at what you've posted and see if I can apply it.

It's a bad workman who blames his tools etc. but I do find ASP.NET completely bloody unintuitive and restrictive.

I have no problems with the .NET 2.0 framework itself - which I think is great.

Thanks again mcquiggd.

[TheMonkey]

It's a bad workman who blames his tools etc. but I do find ASP.NET completely bloody unintuitive and restrictive.

I have no problems with the .NET 2.0 framework itself - which I think is great.

my point exactly!

I'll just add that windows forms sucks too! If only Windows was structured like Cocoa on the Mac - that's scarily well designed!

[mcquiggd]

Yes, thanks for taking the time mcquiggd.

I will take a good look at what you've posted and see if I can apply it.

It's a bad workman who blames his tools etc. but I do find ASP.NET completely bloody unintuitive and restrictive.

I have no problems with the .NET 2.0 framework itself - which I think is great.

Thanks again mcquiggd.

No problem - if it doesnt exactly fit your needs, or you need a more complete example say including images, textboxes, checkboxes in your row, then being able to retrieve their values for sending to your webservice, let me know and I'll update the code...

I think you'll find that once you 'click' with how the ASP.Net model works, you'll see it is certainly not as bad as people here are making out - in fact some of comments on here scare me, coming from people who allegedly have experience and are making a living out of working with the technology as 'specialists'... no wonder so much work is being offshored...