Reply to: New to Contracting, advice on mileage and travel

[niaz7]

Manchester to Guernsey to Gatwick on a Sunday night. Spend the night in Guernsey and into London first thing Monday morning.

Same route on the way back.

Simple.

I never thought of that thanks.

Ideally I want to back Sunday so I am not late for work Monday am.

Also I am not clear about claiming mileage? I have been told I can claim by the company?

I have a high maintenance car so wouldnt make any money on claiming the mileage, I would prefer the option where some people get the maintenance paid for and little or no money for mileage!

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

But where they continue to confuse people is with the highlighted sections above

Agreed but then again HMRC are not known for making things clear and unambiguous. It's very difficult to prove intent unfortunately

[moggy]

We raise this very point with HMRC and this was their response:

"I can appreciate why it can appear that the temporary workplace rules so complicated and difficult to understand and as you suggest a grey area.

I sought advice from a colleague who knows about these better than I do. He has said that if a worker has fulfilled a number of assignments, each of which was properly regarded as being fulfilled at a temporary workplace, we would not penalise the worker by regarding the final workplace as a permanent one just because during their period of attendance at that place their intentions changed and they sought to bring that employment to an end. We would look at the period of employment as a whole and provided the intention had been to attend a series of temporary workplaces, and this had been demonstrated throughout the employment, we would not regard the final workplace as permanent. The worker will still be regarded as attending that final workplace for the purpose of performing a task of limited duration or for a temporary purpose.

I hope that this helps"

But where they continue to confuse people is with the highlighted sections above

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

No, they haven't.

The rules have changed about claiming expenses from your employer when you have handed your notice in (previously, you had to stop claiming once you were leaving because you were no longer at a temporary location; now you don't).

If you only ever have one place of work through the umbrella company, then you can't claim expenses because it was always a permanent place of work.

We raise this very point with HMRC and this was their response:

"I can appreciate why it can appear that the temporary workplace rules so complicated and difficult to understand and as you suggest a grey area.

I sought advice from a colleague who knows about these better than I do. He has said that if a worker has fulfilled a number of assignments, each of which was properly regarded as being fulfilled at a temporary workplace, we would not penalise the worker by regarding the final workplace as a permanent one just because during their period of attendance at that place their intentions changed and they sought to bring that employment to an end. We would look at the period of employment as a whole and provided the intention had been to attend a series of temporary workplaces, and this had been demonstrated throughout the employment, we would not regard the final workplace as permanent. The worker will still be regarded as attending that final workplace for the purpose of performing a task of limited duration or for a temporary purpose.

I hope that this helps"

[TheFaQQer]

oops could be in trouble here, wheres my plan b

Manchester to Guernsey to Gatwick on a Sunday night. Spend the night in Guernsey and into London first thing Monday morning.

Same route on the way back.

Simple.

[TheFaQQer]

I used to trumpet that line but TF says the rules have changed. Can't find the thread. Hopefully he will come and clarify.

No, they haven't.

The rules have changed about claiming expenses from your employer when you have handed your notice in (previously, you had to stop claiming once you were leaving because you were no longer at a temporary location; now you don't).

If you only ever have one place of work through the umbrella company, then you can't claim expenses because it was always a permanent place of work.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

I used to trumpet that line but TF says the rules have changed. Can't find the thread. Hopefully he will come and clarify.

Not to my knowledge they haven't - if a worker only has a single employment through an umbrella company it's considered a permanent workplace and therefore mileage, subsistence and accommodation can't be claimed as those expenses are only allowable where the workplace is temporary

[northernladuk]

Has anyone mentioned yet there could be a problem with expenses if this will be the OP's only assignment through the umbrella?

I used to trumpet that line but TF says the rules have changed. Can't find the thread. Hopefully he will come and clarify.

[Contreras]

Has anyone mentioned yet there could be a problem with expenses if this will be the OP's only assignment through the umbrella?

[Contreras]

there is nothing about it needing to be the employee own vehicle in any shape or form.

I agree ASB. Nothing wrong with expensing a privately hired/leased/borrowed car for business journeys @ 45p/mile.

[niaz7]

My regular friday affy commute home M3/M25/M4/M42/A42/M1/M602 always took 7-9hrs - normal 4.5/5 if clear. You do not wanna drive on a fri affy/eve....

Sometime I thank the DMU for revoking my licence since I let the train take the strain in a little over 3 hrs....

Thanks didn't consider that

My option is either ..

- Get Taxi to London Euston and then train to Manchester.

Get Taxi to London Heathrow and fly to Manchester.

Get a big big car and listen to classical music - loud.

[niaz7]

Yes it is Gatwick to Manchester return.

oops could be in trouble here, wheres my plan b

[stek]

I sound sad, but this is the job I have waited for and its a long long away. All my previous jobs were no more than 8 miles away.

Besides I much prefer this that getting to Liverpool or Sheffield, getting stuck in traffic for two hours and then being stressed getting into work/coming home.

My regular friday affy commute home M3/M25/M4/M42/A42/M1/M602 always took 7-9hrs - normal 4.5/5 if clear. You do not wanna drive on a fri affy/eve....

Sometime I thank the DMU for revoking my licence since I let the train take the strain in a little over 3 hrs....

[niaz7]

Or London.

I'd suggest a flight from Manchester to Gatwick, but there aren't any. Which airport are you planning to fly to - Gatwick was the only one near the M23 that I could think of.

Yes it is Gatwick to Manchester return.

[niaz7]

I sound sad, but this is the job I have waited for and its a long long away. All my previous jobs were no more than 8 miles away.

Besides I much prefer this that getting to Liverpool or Sheffield, getting stuck in traffic for two hours and then being stressed getting into work/coming home.