Reply to: Cat6 or Wireless

[NickNick]

that's a pity, good luck.

In the end I went for one of these in each room, well, most rooms.

PE Socket 4-Port PowerLine AV 200 HomePlug Wall Socket Adapter

The reason was that with a 7 story house there was no way wireless was going to work, so an AP on each floor gives the tablets coverage and there are wired options for those machines that need it.

[vetran]

Having got the quotes back for the re-wire and CAT6 work, it seems just too expensive, something's got to give and it's the network I think. That second product there, the powerline one looks OK, however using that, can you plug a wireless AP into it?

that's a pity, good luck.

[NickNick]

You can buy shielded Cat6 if it concerns you.

Why Use Shielded Cat 6 Cable vs. Unshielded Cat 6 cable? | L-com

Or for those that don't want to run additional cable

Power Ethernet T1000 | Power Ethernet

Having got the quotes back for the re-wire and CAT6 work, it seems just too expensive, something's got to give and it's the network I think. That second product there, the powerline one looks OK, however using that, can you plug a wireless AP into it?

[vetran]

Has anyone used these and did they work properly?

have used their predecessors by other manufacturers. (its just a nicely packaged ethernet over mains) wasn't impressed.

[RasputinDude]

Or for those that don't want to run additional cable

Power Ethernet T1000 | Power Ethernet

Has anyone used these and did they work properly?

[sal]

Shielded will give you the best chance but it's not generally advisable to run that next to power lines either. Ask the sparkie to earth it and keep the parallel runs as short as possible.

All just guidelines however, may well work fine depending what you're using it for. I've seen fibre runs that were 4x as long as the spec allowed that worked perfectly.

Long ago when i still had to go down and dirty i re-wired entire office with 20 desks with shielded SFTP Cat6 running parallel to the powerline in the same cable runs only separated by one inch and plastic divider. No problems whatsoever at 1Gbit, can't comment on 10Gbit as it wasn't generally available and freakishly expensive back then.

The only issue is with the thickness of the cable and that it's quite inflexible, so tight corners a problematic.

[smatty]

Shielded will give you the best chance but it's not generally advisable to run that next to power lines either. Ask the sparkie to earth it and keep the parallel runs as short as possible.

All just guidelines however, may well work fine depending what you're using it for. I've seen fibre runs that were 4x as long as the spec allowed that worked perfectly.

[Andy Hallett]

thought so:

generally put 200-500 mm apart

Cat 5e cable and interference | Electricians Forums

matching faceplates.

TV & Data Modular Range | TV & Satellite | Screwfix.com

You can buy shielded Cat6 if it concerns you.

Why Use Shielded Cat 6 Cable vs. Unshielded Cat 6 cable? | L-com

Or for those that don't want to run additional cable

Power Ethernet T1000 | Power Ethernet

[Contreras]

Maybe instead of doubles boxes fit dual-singles:

Appleby Galvanised Steel Dual 35mm | Metal Back Boxes | Screwfix.com (brick)
Appleby Dual Dry Lining Box | Dry Lining Boxes | Screwfix.com (plasterboard)

Then mix and match standard fitting face plates as required. Assuming the cable(s) are in place would be possible to swap for a different face plate later on, or even revert to using as dual socket.

Is it just mains/rj45 you want or also tv/sat/telephone ?

[Scrag Meister]

Not sure if mentioned already but also get a Punch down tool.

[vetran]

thought so:

generally put 200-500 mm apart

Cat 5e cable and interference | Electricians Forums

matching faceplates.

TV & Data Modular Range | TV & Satellite | Screwfix.com

[NickNick]

not seen those, but matching modules are available in a lot of ranges, MK & Crabtree do them. You can have charcoal plugtops & catX covers with chrome or brass surrounds. Not sure I would want mains & low voltage mixed in the same backbox or if its even legal.

Many thanks
NN

[vetran]

Bit of a bump I realise but I'm just starting down this route at the moment in a new house. It needed re-wiring and so I've asked the electrician to run cat-6 alongside at the same time, something he's done before.

What I'm after now are some plug sockets that have ethernet ports built in so that I don't have to have separate plates all over the place for them. A bit of google-fu only brings up powerline solutions to that. Does anyone have any clues? Does such a thing actually exist for the home market?

not seen those, but matching modules are available in a lot of ranges, MK & Crabtree do them. You can have charcoal plugtops & catX covers with chrome or brass surrounds. Not sure I would want mains & low voltage mixed in the same backbox or if its even legal.

[Unix]

Bit of a bump I realise but I'm just starting down this route at the moment in a new house. It needed re-wiring and so I've asked the electrician to run cat-6 alongside at the same time, something he's done before.

What I'm after now are some plug sockets that have ethernet ports built in so that I don't have to have separate plates all over the place for them. A bit of google-fu only brings up powerline solutions to that. Does anyone have any clues? Does such a thing actually exist for the home market?

Won't the power cable cause interference if you run it next to the Ethernet cable?

[NickNick]

Bit of a bump I realise but I'm just starting down this route at the moment in a new house. It needed re-wiring and so I've asked the electrician to run cat-6 alongside at the same time, something he's done before.

What I'm after now are some plug sockets that have ethernet ports built in so that I don't have to have separate plates all over the place for them. A bit of google-fu only brings up powerline solutions to that. Does anyone have any clues? Does such a thing actually exist for the home market?