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sparklelard replied

5 September 2006, 15:06
Originally posted by Troll

Can you build your own Macs now?

D'you want fries with that?
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AtW replied

4 September 2006, 19:15
It is a very low probability very high impact scenario - IMO worth making sure you covered for 15-20 cents, if that. Of course position of those manufacturers is obvious $0.20 * 10,000,000 boards is $2 mln USD: just enough to pay annual bonus to CEO who must have approved that kind of saving.
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mcquiggd replied

4 September 2006, 19:10
Until their motherboard stops working.
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TheMonkey replied

4 September 2006, 18:58
Yeah but don't forget 99.5% of their users don't need it and don't want to pay for it.
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AtW replied

4 September 2006, 18:18
Bastards are probably saving 15-20 cents per board by not including second BIOS.
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mcquiggd replied

4 September 2006, 18:01
I tend to buy Gigabyte boards as they have two bios chips onboard - if a BIOS flash goes wrong, you should be automatically 'tripped' over to the backup.

I had an ASUS M32 SLI Deluxe barf on me during a bios update - effing frustrating on a weekend when there is nowt you can do about it except buy another motherboard. I did.
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TheMonkey replied

4 September 2006, 17:31
Originally posted by Troll

Shuttle Europe have just agreed to send out a new BIOS chip...which is nice

Fantastic - nice one!
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Troll replied

4 September 2006, 14:10
Shuttle Europe have just agreed to send out a new BIOS chip...which is nice
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TheMonkey replied

2 September 2006, 20:29
Originally posted by AtW

Is it not possible to short some things to reset BIOS? I though modern computers had 2 BIOSes - one read only to use in case 1st one get whacked - I think they decided to do something like this after one virus that was flashing BIOSes.

Some of them do - it's usually a high end thing on overclockers boards in case you feck up your BIOS. It's not a "normal" feature.
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AtW replied

2 September 2006, 10:15
Is it not possible to short some things to reset BIOS? I though modern computers had 2 BIOSes - one read only to use in case 1st one get whacked - I think they decided to do something like this after one virus that was flashing BIOSes.
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TheMonkey replied

1 September 2006, 23:28
Originally posted by Troll

The saga continues.....

Just swapped the BIOS chip in from a 2nd machine & hey presto it booted

So is there anyway of using the good BIOS chip to flash the second?

What are my options on a Saturday morning..

Send the BIOS chip back to the manf or find someone with a flash programmer. I sold mine about 2 years ago otherwise I would have done it for you.
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Troll replied

1 September 2006, 20:36
The saga continues.....

Just swapped the BIOS chip in from a 2nd machine & hey presto it booted

So is there anyway of using the good BIOS chip to flash the second?

What are my options on a Saturday morning..
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TheMonkey replied

26 August 2006, 23:39
Originally posted by Troll

Can you build your own Macs now?

Nope - thats why they work!
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Troll replied

26 August 2006, 23:05
Originally posted by TheMonkey

Yeah I built one of them a few years ago when they were early P4s. I wasn't that impressed with the quality then to be honest I've since switched my allegience to Macs and I'm able to get through the entire day without swearing at the computer.

Can you build your own Macs now?
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TheMonkey replied

26 August 2006, 22:28
Originally posted by Troll

Lots of dead SN25Ps in the shuttle forums..

Yeah I built one of them a few years ago when they were early P4s. I wasn't that impressed with the quality then to be honest I've since switched my allegience to Macs and I'm able to get through the entire day without swearing at the computer.
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