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Previously on "Ivy Bridge and 8GB or Sandy Bridge and 16GB"
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Originally posted by Sysman View PostLinux Mint is a good all round choice but you might want to lock it down a bit. Have you played with file systems other than the default ext4?
I have SSH disabled so you can't ssh into the machine, and at one stage I changed the root password. I had to change it back because I couldn't remember what I'd changed it to - not that I really need the root password.
I'd guess that it's no more or less secure than Windows, I just prefer it
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostI don't do Windows - it's going to be running Linux Mint on it when it gets built. But I'm in the process of re-speccing it to get rid of the DVD drive and include a 90GB SSD as primary drive plus 750GB hybrid drive as secondary drive.
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostBut I'm in the process of re-speccing it to get rid of the DVD drive and include a 90GB SSD as primary drive plus 750GB hybrid drive as secondary drive.
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Originally posted by Spacecadet View PostIf your machine is dying then it's probably just in need of a physical clean out to prevent over heating. Install something that can measure the CPU temps, they should be around 40C when idling and be able to return to cold from hot reasonably quickly.
Originally posted by Spacecadet View PostA fresh install of windows on an SSD (128GB for < £100 now) might help, secondary HDD's can also help spread the burden when running VM's
Of course if you just want shiney new kit to spunk your excess profits on then ignore all of that and get ordering!
Looking at the specs, I can get a slower Ivy Bridge chip and 8GB RAM with a motherboard that supports 32GB which is about £2 more than the quicker chip but with an 8GB limit. I'm slowly working on the Mrs to justify the expense - I want shiny kit!!!
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostThat's a bit of a wild assumption.
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Originally posted by Spacecadet View PostAFAIK if your mother board will support more than 4GB of RAM than it will support more than 8GB.
I know this as my old dell only has 32bit address lines to the RAM meaning it's capped.
Next up is 64 bit address lines which give peta-bytes of RAM access
The physical RAM limits of a system depend on the memory controller and the motherboard design. The number of physical address lines is part of it but in practice the factors at play are the # of channels, number of sockets per channel and the types of RAM module the memory controller will support. Core 2 chipsets typically supported up to 8GB though later desktop systems would support 16GB with slower speed modules. The latest i7 laptops will support 16GB or 32GB with 8GB modules, depending on if they have 2 or 4 sockets in them, desktops top out at 32GB although socket 2011 ones will (theoretically, I haven't tested it myself) support up to 64GB with 4 channels and 2 x 8GB modules per channel. Servers usually support more because they have more memory channels and support registered memory which allows fitting more and larger modules in each channel.
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Originally posted by Spacecadet View PostAFAIK if your mother board will support more than 4GB of RAM than it will support more than 8GB.
I know this as my old dell only has 32bit address lines to the RAM meaning it's capped.
Next up is 64 bit address lines which give peta-bytes of RAM access
Do you need the cores? Mine is quad core i7 (i.e. 8 CPUs with hyperthreading), which I can't help feeling is a bit OTT. Going for RAM is probably the better option. Ivy Bridge probably has better onboard graphics too, although the Sandy Bridge one appears pretty good, but if you're an Oracleist you probably aren't looking for graphics performance so much.
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After "going Apple" I would never go back to a windows based laptop, the Mac book air is the best piece of computer equipment I have ever owned, solid, fast, beautiful and useful.
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostDon't think the motherboard will support more than 8GB. That said, by the time I notice that I "need" more RAM, I'll probably be wanting a new machine anyway.
I know this as my old dell only has 32bit address lines to the RAM meaning it's capped.
Next up is 64 bit address lines which give peta-bytes of RAM access
If your machine is dying then it's probably just in need of a physical clean out to prevent over heating. Install something that can measure the CPU temps, they should be around 40C when idling and be able to return to cold from hot reasonably quickly.
A fresh install of windows on an SSD (128GB for < £100 now) might help, secondary HDD's can also help spread the burden when running VM's
Of course if you just want shiney new kit to spunk your excess profits on then ignore all of that and get ordering!
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Originally posted by Scoobos View PostIn my experience, take the RAM - disk is your limiter in a laptop (unless you've got External SATA or USB 3 , in which case go for the proc)
Originally posted by rsingh View Post<Bunk>Get a Mac<Bunk>
Originally posted by Durbs View PostGo for the Ivy Bridge. You can upgrade your memory in the future but you can't upgrade the processor....
Originally posted by Scrag Meister View PostAlso consider SSD.
Hmmm - decisions, decisions.
And one of the desktop monitors is playing up today as well - flickering every few seconds and earlier the machine wouldn't recognise what kind of monitor it was so put it in crappy resolution mode.
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Go for the Ivy Bridge. You can upgrade your memory in the future but you can't upgrade the processor....
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