Source control Oracle solution?

[configman]

Why? Personally I would ask why they weren't planning to use a distributed repository such as Git, Mercurial or bitbucket.

The current team I work with wanted to use a distributed repository but I've kept them with Subversion. When I drilled down to the reasons for them wanting a distributed repository it was because they wanted to work as individuals and not as a team. They wanted to keep their code to themselves locally and not share it until the last minute and then complain when it didn't merge well. As with any tool you need to find out why people want to use it. It is better to fix the process (and people) rather than change the toolset to promote bad practice.

I don't think there is any need for distributed repositories unless you are going somewhere so remote you have no network connection - maybe during a long flight.

[eek]

If anyone picking a repository now did not use SVN I would question their ability to choose rationally.

Why? Personally I would ask why they weren't planning to use a distributed repository such as Git, Mercurial or bitbucket.

[minestrone]

I think I have used all the main ones, CVS, PVCS, VSS, Clearcase, Star Team, SVN and a couple more I cannot remember the names of.

If anyone picking a repository now did not use SVN I would question their ability to choose rationally.

I used IBM Rational Team Concert on my last gig and it was a pile of foaming crap. Seriously, someone with a suit thinks it is great and the developers have to live with it.

[configman]

I have used a few

PVCS, Star Team and <screamsInTerror>UNClearcase</screamsInTerror>.

Ah yes unClearcase I remember writing automated build scripts to interface with it. Very un-documented command line for Clearcase and it took about 50 lines of code just to download the source code. In Subversion it took only one line of code - and it was documented. Fine for a developer using the menu but you don't have that luxury from build scripts.

[minestrone]

WHS

The only proprietary source control I've ever heard of people using is Perforce, but most use SVN or Git.

I have used a few

PVCS, Star Team and <screamsInTerror>Clearcase</screamsInTerror>.

[TheFaQQer]

I'd be more concerned about how you are keeping any source control and deployment mechanism in check for functional configuration.

Any decent tool can look after your codebase, it's the manual stuff that will cause you problems going forward, particularly if there are many releases and the configuration changes regularly.

[Bunk]

ROFL

Most places use one of the following:

Subversion (subversion.tigris.org)
Mercurial (Mercurial SCM)
Git (Git - Fast Version Control System)

They are all open source

You could always got for VSS from MS if you prefer to pay for something, I hear that's a wonderful system...

In all seriousness there are lots of them knocking about but saying SVN is not good enough because it's open source is probably the most stupid thing I have heard today. Not good enough because branching is an arse maybe, or merging stuff in loses the history for the stuff you merged in, but simply because it is open source... Tell them they are a clueless bunch of feckers.

WHS

The only proprietary source control I've ever heard of people using is Perforce, but most use SVN or Git.

[configman]

Ahoy,

Im currently working on an Oracle 11i ERP solution, we currently use subversion for source control/code (linear development only) and manual spreadsheet process for change & release management workflow, the organisation is maturing and looking to invest (soon to be implementing R12 and UCM technologies)

for source control/ auto deployment looking at
CA SCM (previously known as harvest)
IBM Rational Team Concert

Also been suggested we keep Subversion but this has been poopood by the boys upstairs as open source tech not "mature enough" for a big org?

any experience/ideas of source control tools for Oracle ERP greatly received?

Thanks

Stick with Subversion for source control, and integrate with Atlassian JIRA issue/defect/project management for implementing a complete release,change, configuration management workflow process etc. Use Apache Ant for compiling and packaging and CruiseControl for continuous integration. You only pay for JIRA £10 to £4,500 max depending on users, the rest is free. Using that toolset I coped as Release/Configuration/Build Manager on my own for 73 remote software projects that were built in .net, Java, BPEL, Oracle. As for calling Subversion immature it has been around longer than most other source control and outlasted IBM Rational Cleacase which is way to expensive and starting to disappear. Subversion like most open source is actually backed by a fairly large corporate, who make money by giving it away then offering support and docs. I guess the boys upstairs aren't savvy enough to understand the open source business model and maybe explaining that would help.

[Ardesco]

Also been suggested we keep Subversion but this has been poopood by the boys upstairs as open source tech not "mature enough" for a big org?

ROFL

Most places use one of the following:

Subversion (subversion.tigris.org)
Mercurial (Mercurial SCM)
Git (Git - Fast Version Control System)

They are all open source

You could always got for VSS from MS if you prefer to pay for something, I hear that's a wonderful system...

In all seriousness there are lots of them knocking about but saying SVN is not good enough because it's open source is probably the most stupid thing I have heard today. Not good enough because branching is an arse maybe, or merging stuff in loses the history for the stuff you merged in, but simply because it is open source... Tell them they are a clueless bunch of feckers.

[Churchill]

Ahoy,

Im currently working on an Oracle 11i ERP solution, we currently use subversion for source control/code (linear development only) and manual spreadsheet process for change & release management workflow, the organisation is maturing and looking to invest (soon to be implementing R12 and UCM technologies)

for source control/ auto deployment looking at
CA SCM (previously known as harvest)
IBM Rational Team Concert

Also been suggested we keep Subversion but this has been poopood by the boys upstairs as open source tech not "mature enough" for a big org?

any experience/ideas of source control tools for Oracle ERP greatly received?

Thanks

We use "Dimensions CM"

It's Ok once you know what you're doing.

[badgerpig]

Ahoy,

Im currently working on an Oracle 11i ERP solution, we currently use subversion for source control/code (linear development only) and manual spreadsheet process for change & release management workflow, the organisation is maturing and looking to invest (soon to be implementing R12 and UCM technologies)

for source control/ auto deployment looking at
CA SCM (previously known as harvest)
IBM Rational Team Concert

Also been suggested we keep Subversion but this has been poopood by the boys upstairs as open source tech not "mature enough" for a big org?

any experience/ideas of source control tools for Oracle ERP greatly received?

Thanks