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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    My mate in the seychelles (contracting) has had a lot of problems with email, chiefly outbound email. It would appear that the whole Island uses one SMTP server

    And once you know this, it works.

    However

    The pop3 side of things has stopped working.

    Problem 1, local seychelles DNS server does not list pop3.mail.yahoo.co.uk
    Solution, add host hack to local hosts file. Sorted

    Problem 2, pop3.mail.yahoo.co.uk does not accept my friends credentials (EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN LOG INTO WEB MAIL using them )
    Solution, the yank server .com does work

    Problem 3, local seychelles DNS server does not list the yank server
    Intended solution, do another host hack.

    Problem 3, cannot obtain ip address of said yank server.

    In conclusion, yahoo, your mail service sucks ass and I hate you so passionately I could throw my sofa across the room you utter utter *u***

    Simples, swap to Google DNS: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

    Many ISPs have problems being a telco, never mind running a DNS, so solves those problems.

    Also many countries have their native ISPs block certain sites, Pirate Bay etc., by redirecting the DNS, so this is a good workaround.

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  • Cliphead
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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    Cliphead, have you been at the toilet duck again.

    For you'r benefit :



    So, this means i t ' s n o t m y e m a i l a d d r e s s

    you crazy drunk jock
    Sober for a change. Tell yer mate to get a real email address. A contractor, Yahoo! ffs

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by Cliphead View Post
    Get a real email address ffs
    Cliphead, have you been at the toilet duck again.

    For you'r benefit :

    My mate in the seychelles (contracting) has had a lot of problems with email
    So, this means i t ' s n o t m y e m a i l a d d r e s s

    you crazy drunk jock

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  • Cliphead
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    Get a real email address ffs

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    That's the weird bit. Yahoo user credentials are kept in UDB (User database) which is implemented as a massively-distributed filesystem: if you log in on the opposite side of the world from where you normally do, UDB will be able to find and confirm your information within seconds, max, and then keep it cached (fairly) locally to where you are. If he can log in OK to Yahoo! itself, then UDB knows who he is, so I can't see why Mail would have trouble authenticating him
    You have cottoned on to why I am so frakin annoyed

    How, and I mean HOW, can it work on yahoo.com and not .co.uk mail servers? It's just not right, bloody annoying, really crap, yahoo sucks ass.

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  • NickFitz
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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    Plus, did I not mention, that host was refusing his credentials?
    That's the weird bit. Yahoo user credentials are kept in UDB (User database) which is implemented as a massively-distributed filesystem: if you log in on the opposite side of the world from where you normally do, UDB will be able to find and confirm your information within seconds, max, and then keep it cached (fairly) locally to where you are. If he can log in OK to Yahoo! itself, then UDB knows who he is, so I can't see why Mail would have trouble authenticating him

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    pop.mail.yahoo.com resolves to... well, have a look:

    Code:
    ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> pop.mail.yahoo.com a +multiline +nocomments +nocmd +noquestion +nostats +search
;; global options: +cmd
pop.mail.yahoo.com.	405 IN CNAME pop.plus.mail.yahoo.com.
pop.plus.mail.yahoo.com. 59 IN CNAME pop.plus.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com.
pop.plus.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. 59 IN A 206.190.53.11
    You could give that final hostname, or the IP address, a try.
    Code:
    Pinging rc.europe.fyeu.b.yahoo.com [87.248.121.75] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 87.248.121.75: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=54
Reply from 87.248.121.75: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=54
Reply from 87.248.121.75: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=54
Reply from 87.248.121.75: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 87.248.121.75:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 41ms, Maximum = 72ms, Average = 53ms


    Plus, did I not mention, that host was refusing his credentials?

    Thanks for trying Nick. I can host hack his pc, but until yahoo sort there lame asses out I cannot help him.

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  • NickFitz
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    pop.mail.yahoo.com resolves to... well, have a look:

    Code:
    ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> pop.mail.yahoo.com a +multiline +nocomments +nocmd +noquestion +nostats +search
;; global options: +cmd
pop.mail.yahoo.com.	405 IN CNAME pop.plus.mail.yahoo.com.
pop.plus.mail.yahoo.com. 59 IN CNAME pop.plus.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com.
pop.plus.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. 59 IN A 206.190.53.11
    You could give that final hostname, or the IP address, a try.

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by Durbs View Post
    So why not set his PC/Router to use one of the billions of open DNS servers that DO?
    yeah thanks for that. I did do a host hack, and got the mail servers pinging ok, but then they refused his details, even though they were correct.

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  • suityou01
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    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    pop3.mail.yahoo.co.uk isn't a valid server name - try pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk.

    EDIT:

    Code:
    ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk a +multiline +nocomments +nocmd +noquestion +nostats +search
;; global options: +cmd
pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk.	503 IN CNAME pop.eu.mail.yahoo.com.
pop.eu.mail.yahoo.com.	503 IN CNAME pop1.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com.
pop1.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com. 1343 IN A 217.146.176.233
    although Y!'s network will probably want send you to somewhere "near" your "location" (on t'Internet, not necessarily in TRW) so that IP address probably won't work for your friend.

    EDIT 2: Have you looked at Y! Mail's help pages?
    Tried everything

    pop3.yahoo.com/.co.uk
    pop.yahoo.co.uk/com

    Yes I read the help pages plus a myriad other "help" sites.

    He was in a hotel with metered web access so I was up against the clock, and I was using a very shaky connection using gotomeeting desktop sharing.

    All in all a stressful experience. I got his credentials working here in blighty, but not from the seychelles.

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  • AtW
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  • NickFitz
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    pop3.mail.yahoo.co.uk isn't a valid server name - try pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk.

    EDIT:

    Code:
    ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk a +multiline +nocomments +nocmd +noquestion +nostats +search
;; global options: +cmd
pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk.	503 IN CNAME pop.eu.mail.yahoo.com.
pop.eu.mail.yahoo.com.	503 IN CNAME pop1.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com.
pop1.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com. 1343 IN A 217.146.176.233
    although Y!'s network will probably want send you to somewhere "near" your "location" (on t'Internet, not necessarily in TRW) so that IP address probably won't work for your friend.

    EDIT 2: Have you looked at Y! Mail's help pages?
    Last edited by NickFitz; 27 May 2010, 20:11.

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  • Durbs
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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post

    Problem 1, local seychelles DNS server does not list pop3.mail.yahoo.co.uk
    Solution, add host hack to local hosts file. Sorted
    So why not set his PC/Router to use one of the billions of open DNS servers that DO?

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  • suityou01
    started a topic Yahoo, you suck

    Yahoo, you suck

    My mate in the seychelles (contracting) has had a lot of problems with email, chiefly outbound email. It would appear that the whole Island uses one SMTP server

    And once you know this, it works.

    However

    The pop3 side of things has stopped working.

    Problem 1, local seychelles DNS server does not list pop3.mail.yahoo.co.uk
    Solution, add host hack to local hosts file. Sorted

    Problem 2, pop3.mail.yahoo.co.uk does not accept my friends credentials (EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN LOG INTO WEB MAIL using them )
    Solution, the yank server .com does work

    Problem 3, local seychelles DNS server does not list the yank server
    Intended solution, do another host hack.

    Problem 3, cannot obtain ip address of said yank server.

    In conclusion, yahoo, your mail service sucks ass and I hate you so passionately I could throw my sofa across the room you utter utter *u***
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