Reply to: CMS advice

[darmstadt]

Oh the glory days of CMS!

Hated it myself - more of a MVS TSO man.

IBM described VM as a 'Hypervisor' rather than an Operating System - a way of virtualising and sharing system resources. The things you ran under VM were OSs like DOS/VSE, MVS and of course CMS.

Then we got to the stage of mainframe hardware virtualisation (LPARs) and runnng MVS under VM in an LPAR - madness

Well nowadays it seems to be more of a hypervisor again. I run numerous zLinux systems under it and have a friend who has run 30,000 zLinux images under zVM. Also coming up is the ability to run Sun Solaris under zVM (and rumours of Windows on the mainframe but not necessarily under zVM.) zVM has been performing virtualisation probably before the writers of VMWare et. al. were born.

[bogeyman]

Quite interesting this as the only CMS I know is Conversational Monitor System which is basically the front-end to VM but also has something called CMS Windows. Then there was a mention of DMS which once again runs under VM and was basically another part of CMS (DMSCMS) and was Display Management System/Conversional Monitor System, all of which predate the topic here by many years. Even VM which was 'purloined' by Sun/MS is in fact an operating system. I hate TLAs as there are now so many of them and all have a different meaning

Oh the glory days of CMS!

Hated it myself - more of a MVS TSO man.

IBM described VM as a 'Hypervisor' rather than an Operating System - a way of virtualising and sharing system resources. The things you ran under VM were OSs like DOS/VSE, MVS and of course CMS.

Then we got to the stage of mainframe hardware virtualisation (LPARs) and runnng MVS under VM in an LPAR - madness

[TykeMerc]

To me a CMS is a Content Management System like Documentum.

TLA's do cause loads of confusion.

[darmstadt]

Quite interesting this as the only CMS I know is Conversational Monitor System which is basically the front-end to VM but also has something called CMS Windows. Then there was a mention of DMS which once again runs under VM and was basically another part of CMS (DMSCMS) and was Display Management System/Conversional Monitor System, all of which predate the topic here by many years. Even VM which was 'purloined' by Sun/MS is in fact an operating system. I hate TLAs as there are now so many of them and all have a different meaning

[DimPrawn]

FFS, buy Windows OS for a few hundred quid and get it all FREE with Sharepoint Services baked in.

[Fred Bloggs]

There seems be a blurred line between the two. But I'm definitly only looking at the documents part. Which would be a lower level I think than a web CMS.

OK, then I'm sure that PHPNUKE, Joomla etc.. as I understand them are not what you want. They AFAUI are website content managers first and foremost with Galleries, shopping carts and Forums as bolt ons.

[lilelvis2000]

There seems be a blurred line between the two. But I'm definitly only looking at the documents part. Which would be a lower level I think than a web CMS.

[Fred Bloggs]

Is it a CMS or a DMS that's needed? I'm not sure a CMS (as I understand it) does what you want. I've used PHPNUKE and a PHPNUKE port called RavenNuke.

[lilelvis2000]

I'll have a look into those.

I like Alfresco because it has a shared drive for documents...I'm assuming that when a document is updated a version of the old is kept. I has tasks, and search via web browser. Can't recall if a user can drop a file into the browser or not.

Don't know if all the capabilities are in the OpenSource version. its not clear from the website.

[blacjac]

could give these lot a try
http://www.eclipselegal.co.uk/

not going to be free/cheap though

I once went for a job interview there in my permie days, based in Bradford.

[pmeswani]

That's at least reasonable. Alfresco it is.

SugarCRM is out of the question?

[Spacecadet]

I am looking into a CMS for my wife's legal practice.

could give these lot a try
http://www.eclipselegal.co.uk/

not going to be free/cheap though

[Ardesco]

What does Alfresco not do that you want?

Joomla/Drupels are more along the lines of a community site or a shopping site depending on what you bolt in. I would not see either of them as anything akin to sharepoint....

[portseven]

What do you want it to do?

Good Sharepoint alternatives are

http://o3spaces.org/Page/sp3/nctrue/index.html

http://www.knowledgetree.com/

[lilelvis2000]

That's at least reasonable. Alfresco it is.