Reply to: Windows 2000 Server

If they can get Novell Directory system, speed & reliability to transfer seamlessly to UNIX whilst controlling ease of use issues (OK Novell wasn't intuitive, but if you patched it correctly, read the manual 3 times, checked all settings, you didn't get many surprises - it just worked) Possibly I'm out of date I last used 4.1.

Seems like a perfect way out of a proprietary OS and back into the mainstream fold. The Netware branch could be cut down and fit into NAS or Print servers to preserve the investment.

I suppose that will depend upon how successful Linux is and whether there is any call for the NetWare kernel.

So far as most existing CNE's/CNA's are concerned, it will depend upon their level of experience with the product.

Many may try the Linux kernel and like it (or already have experience of it). Many may not.

Novell have been trying to move away from tools like NWAdmin to ConsoleOne (a Java based combined administration system) for years - with only limited success. Improvements along that route may well depend upon the Linux kernel.

However, I think it is safe to say that the highly advanced eDirectory (which has always made something of a mockery of MS Active Directory IMV) is where Novell is "AT" in terms of the network operating/managing system - NetWare is just something to run it, and other services, on (like Linux - or even NT/2000/XP Pro for that matter).

Personally - I'm much more familiar with NetWare, than I am with Linux - but then I'm just an old fuddy duddy.

However, we musn't forget how efficient NetWare is in handling all those services. If one NetWare server can handle the load of - well a great deal more - NT/2000 servers, as we know it can, many MCNEs will be looking to see if the Linux kernel is equally efficient in those terms. It may well be more so - but if it is less so, then costs will raise it's head over personal preference.

but you do agree that Novell NetWare as it is now will be phrase out in favour of something that will do similar thing and perhaps be compatible but based on Linux?

IBM already have a stake in Novell. Small at the moment, admittedly. But Novell & IBM have been business partners for some time, although I'm not sure how long.

> Certified Novell Salesperson

now that explains

i meant death of NetWare - by buying Linux Novell - the company - might survive, but personally I think they will be bought by IBM or someone else.


Good luck to your enterprise anyway.

I am completely up to date, For the record, I am a Certified Novell Administrator and a Certified Novell Salesperson. Hence my ability to offer the SBS6 Starter Pack.

You are correct in stating that Novell have acquired SuSE and will be porting all their applications and directory services to Linux. We're very happy to support that too.

From NetWare 7 eDirectory will be bundled and available on both the NetWare and Linux kernals, and many systems have already been ported and are supported on both RedHat & SuSE. Some time is needed, hence the current NetWare 6.5 release.

Certainly happy to offer the evaluation version of Small Business Suite 6 - in fact it's the Starter Pack, which has 5 user & 2 server non time expiring licenses.

See my profile for details.

Novell bought SuSe Linux and now will move completely to it - I remember we had big argument that Novell won't die - but there it is - clear sign of imminent death

Errrm, excuse me, but if NOVELL acquired SuSE - how does that spell imminent death for Novell? I think, maybe, you are misreading/misinterpreting the situation.

If you mean imminent death for NetWare - I don't see that happening either - as I said, release 7 will include support for both NetWare & Linux kernels. Frankly, I don't see that it matters which kernel the services run on! Administrators will now have a choice - and if they feel more comfortable with the Linux kernel, so be it.

The biggest change I see is in the desktop - now Novell have a complete desktop to server solution. In fact, there is already no need to use the Novell Client, as NetWare 6 allows for a browser based interface (although a Linux Desktop Client is available). And Mozilla or KDE work fine, in my experience. Havent tried other Linux desktops/browsers though.

For the record, Novell ZENworks uses a Linux partition for desktop imaging, and has done for a couple of years ttbomk.

If you have any mates, you might be able to persuade one of them to 'loan' you a copy for 'evaluation purposes'.
Or there's always Kazaa...:lol

RobAnt is not exactly up to date on current affairs - perhaps he might want to check that Novell bought SuSe Linux and now will move completely to it - I remember we had big argument that Novell won't die - but there it is - clear sign of imminent death :lol

Novell? Don't make me larf :lol

Novell Small Business Suite 6, an arguably better product, with a perpetual 5 user/2 server license is Free. See my profile.

> ebay, with those nice gold disks.

emule is cheaper - all software is shareware there - providing you can find somebody willing to share it

Why not sign up the the M$ licensing programme if it's still available. Loadsa stuff for £200.

ebay, with those nice gold disks.

Thanks dad,

well I went on Dealtime.co.uk and it wasn't exactly music to my ears but there we are.

Though it pains me to give soooo much money to Microshaft, I must remember the cost does come off my tax so there is a little bit of a silver lining.

Back to the question, does anybody know a site or shop that does MS Server 2000 or XP Professional for a good price ?

Thanks,

Milan.

You really shouldn't be worrying your pretty little head with stuff like that - stick to FIFA Soccer Manager, Doom, etc. etc.

Perhaps you could also get somebody to show you how to use a search engine too or even price comparison sites - you may be surprised to discover it but there is more than this site on the web.