Reply to: Flutter / React / Angular?

[BigDataPro]

Sound like terms you would use in a porn movie..."If you Flutter this, then it will React in an Angular movement"

There are couple of testing frameworks that goes by the name Cucumber & Gherkin as well

[darmstadt]

Sound like terms you would use in a porn movie..."If you Flutter this, then it will React in an Angular movement"

[BigDataPro]

Update:

Had a go with Flutter. Amazing it is. Both performance and UI (Material Design) are fantastic. Tested with Simulator, Emulator and Physical devices, the experience of developing and deploying is painless!

[Hobosapien]

WASM is pretty cool but rather specialist.

WASM is just the container that lets you run non-javascript code in the browser. Only a masochist would attempt to program anything substantial in it directly, hence Rust and other higher level languages becoming available to make the task much easier and productive.

The overriding factor for using WASM or not for the web is whether interested in learning or already invested in javascript. If not then there are better ways to go.

Personally, as a long time .net gravy train rider () Blazor WASM using C# is what I'm interested in. It's the HS2 of the enterprise dev world already dominated by Microsoft.

For those more interested in non M$ stuff, creating an SPA using Rust seems interesting (I keep an eye on WASM and other languages using it such as Rust to see the state of the art in terms of where things are going):

Single Page Applications using Rust

Hopefully once these new ways of programming the web become mature we'll see a more stable ecosystem than the javascript snakepit of endless script libraries and all the issues that brings.

[d000hg]

WASM is pretty cool but rather specialist.

[Zigenare]

The mistake is buying into anything new. C++, C#, Java, Python, JS are all doing great. I'd love to get someone to pay me to learn Rust or whatever, but I'm not going to invest my time in it in case it's the next Ruby on Rails or D.

Threaded was a "RoR" advocate, if memory serves.

"Programming WebAssembly with Rust" is my current reading...

[Rearden Metal]

Flutter?

Is this going to be to the javascript world what Visual J++ was to Java?

[BigDataPro]

The mistake is buying into anything new. C++, C#, Java, Python, JS are all doing great. I'd love to get someone to pay me to learn Rust or whatever, but I'm not going to invest my time in it in case it's the next Ruby on Rails or D.

Yep. I wasted my time on Ruby On Rails. Still like Ruby though. RoR has been replaced by Elixir / Phoenix. Looks like I have spent more time trying to learn something just because I suddenly see an influx of job ads asking for it and only to realise it just vanishes in few years.

[d000hg]

Languages seem to go obsolete in 6 months these days. Might be better to switch back to COBOL.

The mistake is buying into anything new. C++, C#, Java, Python, JS are all doing great. I'd love to get someone to pay me to learn Rust or whatever, but I'm not going to invest my time in it in case it's the next Ruby on Rails or D.

[minestrone]

I still don't really get the hype surrounding Visual Studio Code. Ultimately it's just a glorified text editor and not a fully featured IDE. It depends on what your requirement is but branding it under Visual Studio was daft.

after 18 years of coding java in eclipse I switched to VSC last year.

It's tulip but they definitely are improving it. Eclipse was like 3rd round chemotherapy.

[minestrone]

Working on Java only infrequently, every time I do I find all the frameworks I know have been tossed in the bin in favour of something else. I tend to just not use them if I can avoid it, it takes longer to learn the framework than to do the work!

The release cycle is killing me. It's like switching from 20 years benzodiazepine addiction to David Bowie levels of cocaine abuse.

[BigDataPro]

...Whatever the choice it seems all the big players are moving away from Javascript, finally.

That's interesting. On one hand languages supported on Cloud (Serverless to be specific) includes javascript and python as a must have, whereas they are moving away from javascript on the web front. Grrr.

[BigDataPro]

Might be worth looking at Ionic as well. Initially Angular based, they're now in Beta for Vue, which I think will make it much more popular. I'm already seeing an increase in demand.

Ionic is definitely not a good choice in terms of performance. I have moved away from Cordova web view purely for performance reasons.

[fullyautomatix]

Languages seem to go obsolete in 6 months these days. Might be better to switch back to COBOL.

[d000hg]

Christ alive, didn't that old crap die a death a decade ago....hopefully it did.

Working on Java only infrequently, every time I do I find all the frameworks I know have been tossed in the bin in favour of something else. I tend to just not use them if I can avoid it, it takes longer to learn the framework than to do the work!