Windows 10 anniversary update

[VectraMan]

MS state.."This is primarily a tool for developers -- especially web developers and those who work on or with open source projects. This allows those who want/need to use Bash, common Linux tools (sed, awk, etc.) and many Linux-first tools (Ruby, Python, etc.) to use their toolchain on Windows."

I'm working on Linux software in Windows with VisualStudio (because it's so much easier), and using a VM to get it to build (and hopefully work first time) under Linux. So this potentially does help me (or at least it would if ClientCo's PC had Windows 10).

[SunnyInHades]

Now if I could only think of a single reason I might want to use that.

MS state.."This is primarily a tool for developers -- especially web developers and those who work on or with open source projects. This allows those who want/need to use Bash, common Linux tools (sed, awk, etc.) and many Linux-first tools (Ruby, Python, etc.) to use their toolchain on Windows."

Looks like for the first time you get a proper Linux 'ELF binary' environment on Windows, without needing to dual boot/VM/emulate etc. Compile on your Surface Book, ftp upload and run on Richard Stallman's laptop.
For devs that need to work on both platforms WSL looks like it could be one of the biggies in the Anniversary update.

Would love to see know Linus Torvald's/ Richard Stallman's reaction to WSL - can it be added to www.distrowatch.com ?

[VectraMan]

I have it today. Obviously I was a bit too keen yesterday.

Start menu is better because it now shows all the programs. Notifications are in the bottom right corner which kind of pushes the clock into the wrong position, but otherwise haven't noticed anything particularly different.

Linuxy bash thing sounds interesting. Now if I could only think of a single reason I might want to use that.

[SunnyInHades]

Wonder if it's as bad as Cygwin or the piss-awful Unix Services for Windows subsystem we needed for GPFS clusters....

Although I've not used it yet:
1) Apparently .. there are no DLLs like Cygwin, rather it's like Linux 'Wine' in reverse with Linux->Win10 run time system call mapping
2) Allegedly .. compile source using gcc on Win10, ftp binary UNCHANGED to Ubuntu Linux. Run binary on Ubuntu.

"This is not a VM. This is not cross-compiled tools. This is native ...We've partnered with Canonical
We've actually taken the Linux UserMode code from Ubuntu and we've built a subsystem into the Windows kernel to expose an interface that looks to all intents and purposes like Linux to a Linux UserMode.
So we've integrated Windows and the Linux UserMode code to run smoothly on Windows. We're calling this Windows Subsystem for Linux."

[stek]

Don't forget the new Ubuntu supported 'Bash shell/Windows Subsystem for Linux' which takes Torvald's 'baby' (the Linux kernel) out of the loop - that's what I'm looking forward to try:

Windows 10 Anniversary
Bash Shell
|
gcc producing ELF binaries, git, grep, sudo, awk, Python, Ruby etc
|
Windows Subsystem for Linux

Linux
Bash Shell
|
gcc producing ELF binaries, git, grep, sudo, awk, Python, Ruby etc
|
Linux kernel

Wonder if it's as bad as Cygwin or the piss-awful Unix Services for Windows subsystem we needed for GPFS clusters....

[SunnyInHades]

My SurfaceBook - sorry, MyCo's SurfaceBook - has just completed the update. Few bits and pieces seem different - notification icon has moved to far right of taskbar, for example, and the Start Menu has changed (again!).....oh, and there is a Windows Ink Workspace icon towards on the taskbar, too.

Will investigate further when Client demands subside in the after-lunch lull

Don't forget the new Ubuntu supported 'Bash shell/Windows Subsystem for Linux' which takes Torvald's 'baby' (the Linux kernel) out of the loop - that's what I'm looking forward to try:

Windows 10 Anniversary
Bash Shell
|
gcc producing ELF binaries, git, grep, sudo, awk, Python, Ruby etc
|
Windows Subsystem for Linux

Linux
Bash Shell
|
gcc producing ELF binaries, git, grep, sudo, awk, Python, Ruby etc
|
Linux kernel

[kevpuk]

My SurfaceBook - sorry, MyCo's SurfaceBook - has just completed the update. Few bits and pieces seem different - notification icon has moved to far right of taskbar, for example, and the Start Menu has changed (again!).....oh, and there is a Windows Ink Workspace icon towards on the taskbar, too.

Will investigate further when Client demands subside in the after-lunch lull

[MrMarkyMark]

FTFY

I'm going to avoid manually requesting the update (presuming it's not yet automatically being applied for the masses) until you guinea pigs have reported all the issues.

Should be safe in a few months after the next service pack.

[Hobosapien]

I'm going to avoid manually requesting the update (presuming it's not yet automatically being applied for the masses) until you guinea pigs have reported all the issues.

Should be safe in a few weeks after the next update.

[VectraMan]

Oh FFS! Followed the link to download MS's update tool to manually install the update; told it to "upgrade this PC". It chugged away for an hour and has left me with exactly the same version I had before!

[Bee]

I didn't update. Probably I will have Windows 15... in my next computer.

[VectraMan]

It's taking long enough. Clearly this is a little more than rearranging the icons on the start menu.