As per usual the market will have a fair say in what happens in as much as if clients are struggling to find skilled resource they will look into ways of keeping the role outside of IR35.
Speaking as someone currently looking for a new contract and spent most of last Summer doing the same that seems a long way away at the moment.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostPardon?
I've never had staff pay for products for me when I went into a supermarket. I've also never spent more than a couple of hours in any week in a supermarket. Any trip to one has been for the purpose of checking availability and price, or buying products. I do not go in to a supermarket because I am contracted to do so, or because the supermarket provides me with payment just for going there.
You seem to be clutching at straws. If you work and are paid for that work by a company, and you do that same job for years, working 35+ hours per week, then what is the difference in what you do and what the permanent employee sitting beside you does?
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Originally posted by elsergiovolador View PostThe staff usually pays for the products just like any customer, so no, you don't pay to work.
Pardon?
I've never had staff pay for products for me when I went into a supermarket. I've also never spent more than a couple of hours in any week in a supermarket. Any trip to one has been for the purpose of checking availability and price, or buying products. I do not go in to a supermarket because I am contracted to do so, or because the supermarket provides me with payment just for going there.
You seem to be clutching at straws. If you work and are paid for that work by a company, and you do that same job for years, working 35+ hours per week, then what is the difference in what you do and what the permanent employee sitting beside you does?
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostAh, so a contractor has to pay the client to work for them, right. That's what I've been doing wrong for 20+ years.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostBrilliant analogy, just one question:
Do they get paid by the supermarket to use the self checkout?
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostDoes it take you 40 hours a week to do your shopping?
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Originally posted by elsergiovolador View PostDo you think people who go to the same supermarket for years and use self checkout doing basically the same job as a cashier, should become store employees?
Do they get paid by the supermarket to use the self checkout?
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostNo, just a bit tired of people saying they are contractors when they only work for one company for years doing basically the same job as an employee
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostIf you're a one person "business" who only works for one client for long periods of time then you really should drop the word "business", in the same way that you need to drop the word "freelance" or "temporary"
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View PostBut they are also not an employee - they are a worker without rights.
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Originally posted by elsergiovolador View PostThat's correct, a disguised employee is not running a business.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostIf you're a one person "business" who only works for one client for long periods of time then you really should drop the word "business", in the same way that you need to drop the word "freelance" or "temporary"
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