Reply to: Considering a new public sector role.

[PurpleGorilla]

Not for the MoD it isn't

I had offers well above £900 a day before any of this crap kicked off. Attractive now has four figures.

Good for you!

[philo]

What to do with Ltd whilst under an umbrella?

I'm not sure - keep it open in case next contract private sector? Can you use it for payment if taxed at source?

[bobspud]

It's deliberately juicy to attract due to ir35

Not for the MoD it isn't

I had offers well above £900 a day before any of this crap kicked off. Attractive now has four figures.

[PurpleGorilla]

Apologies for hijacking thread but didnt think this warranted a new thread.

Currently working in a PS role which is going to now finish end of March. Going to be paid on 5th April.

Possibly have a new PS role - different part of PS but still under FoI although a different agency which will probably be deemed inside. Will only get into the nitty gritty of that if offered the contract or at interview.

Any risks with this if I get taxed at source using the new rules? First pay day likely to be in new tax year.

What to do with Ltd whilst under an umbrella?

[philo]

Apologies for hijacking thread but didnt think this warranted a new thread.

Currently working in a PS role which is going to now finish end of March. Going to be paid on 5th April.

Possibly have a new PS role - different part of PS but still under FoI although a different agency which will probably be deemed inside. Will only get into the nitty gritty of that if offered the contract or at interview.

Any risks with this if I get taxed at source using the new rules? First pay day likely to be in new tax year.

[northernladuk]

Thank you for the kind compliment. As it stands we are not struggling to fill roles, not sure where that assumption came from?

Anyway also happy to have a chat.

Not you particularly I guess. It was another of my wild assumptions based on the number of PS gigs out there, the number of people leaving and the number of gigs people say they are turning down. Should be easy enough to cherry pick a role for those that actually want to be in the PS at the moment no?

[NomDePlum]

Hi, I am Commercial Director at SThree. SThree is the holding company for a number of recruitment brands. In the UK we trade under Real Staffing, Computer Futures, Progressive, Huxley and Orgtel.

Hi Andy - nice to meet you. I was given 3 possible agencies and none of the above match I am afraid. Not sure how fluid agency lists are with PS orgs? I'm clarifying some things with the end-client PS before proceeding but if that works out is it worth having a discussion or not do you think?

[Andy Hallett]

Showing my ignorance here (well a small portion!) but who is Andy and S3? Are they an agent/agency with particular experience in PS?

Hi, I am Commercial Director at SThree. SThree is the holding company for a number of recruitment brands. In the UK we trade under Real Staffing, Computer Futures, Progressive, Huxley and Orgtel.

We have a significant number of contractors across the public sector and have been looking at this since the consultation document last year.

I've been posting on here for a good few years now and seem to be tolerated.

[NomDePlum]

I thought you said you'd been reading the forums?

I have but obviously missing the obvious!

[Andy Hallett]

Why not give Andy Hallett at S3 a call. He obviously knows as much as anyone about this and must be struggling to fill roles. You know what you are doing and what your need, Andy knows. Work together and cherry pick the role you want

Thank you for the kind compliment. As it stands we are not struggling to fill roles, not sure where that assumption came from?

Anyway also happy to have a chat.

[northernladuk]

I thought you said you'd been reading the forums?

[NomDePlum]

Why not give Andy Hallett at S3 a call. He obviously knows as much as anyone about this and must be struggling to fill roles. You know what you are doing and what your need, Andy knows. Work together and cherry pick the role you want

Showing my ignorance here (well a small portion!) but who is Andy and S3? Are they an agent/agency with particular experience in PS?

[northernladuk]

Why not give Andy Hallett at S3 a call. He obviously knows as much as anyone about this and must be struggling to fill roles. You know what you are doing and what your need, Andy knows. Work together and cherry pick the role you want

[NomDePlum]

Sitting on the bench til the smoke clears would be much preferable IMO to taking a PS contract with an "unsure" client who could then turn around and "inside" you with the associated risk of HMRC retro-investigation.

My intention is to walk them through why I am outside and making sure that is part of the engagement and making it clear that if I am ever inside then I am off. I do think that Aprils consequences will hit but if I have all my outside IR35 ducks lined up and there is no blanket decision then surely my exposure is however long it takes them to process me through ESS. I haven't done any work for the PS before and haven't worked via any of the agencies they have mentioned so other than now until April would retrospective even be a thing?

[notahappybunny]

Sitting on the bench til the smoke clears would be much preferable IMO to taking a PS contract with an "unsure" client who could then turn around and "inside" you with the associated risk of HMRC retro-investigation.

That is my intention if no private pops up.........although current PS client has asked me defer giving 28 day notice for a few days whilst agency seems intent on trying to manipulate me into umbrella.