Reply to: Ukip turn their backs

[Zero Liability]

[darmstadt]

How about the Olympics when Farage stated:

"It's been a fabulous week for our elite athletes in all sports. We've had some brililant results in rowing, shooting, cycling and the swimming but it's hard to top Jessica Ennis' amazing victory in the heptathalon, particularly with the weight of a nation's expectations on her shoulders"

"Our 'Face of the Games' became the 'Queen of the Games' last night, while Mo Farah and Greg Rutherford also grabbed gold at the highest level."

But you do know that they didn't want it to be in the UK but in France, in fact they went so far as to hoisting a giant banner at City Hall emblazoned with the Paris bid logo and the French tricolour. The French complained about this...

or the Ukip calling Tories hypocrites:

Conservative MEPs were accused of hypocrisy after 14 of them spent an estimated £30,000 on a taxpayer funded trip to Croatia. The five star trip took place before the new European Parliament was in session after the election and included two MEPs who had lost their seats, according to the Daily Mail.
The party had campaigned weeks earlier at the election on a platform of cutting waste, leading to suggestions that they have been dishonest with voters. Last night, UKIP deputy leader Paul Nuttall said: “Tory MEPs are dripping with hypocrisy. They may criticise the EU’s waste of taxpayers’ money by press release, but in reality no one does it better than they do. It’s outrageous.”

This is the man who stated "National democracy and EU membership are incompatible."

"We will do everything we can to free ourselves from this corrupt institution."

Meanwhile he has claimed a staggering £623,067 in expenses for performing his role in Europe. To make this worse he has a 43% attendance record!

So there you have it... another lazy hypocrite who is quite happy to dish out judgement on others, but not so keen to impose the same scrutiny on himself.


You know, Ukip bang on about how much the UK pays to the EU but they could actually help here by not being elected therefore saving the salaries and expenses that they're claiming. Its not as if they do **** all while they're there anyway (apart from freeloading on the gravy train)

[darmstadt]

My point was about hypocrisy which is a word you do not seem to understand. It does not matter whether UKIP's policy is working - though I would argue it clearly is because thanks to their pressure the government is moving the UK towards the exit door, the point is that they have a policy for which people have voted. The policy is to cause disruption to the EU institutions from within. Quite where the hypocrisy is I do not know.

Their position on violence to women: Damn, couldn't find their policy so presumably the following is true. I was hoping that they abhor it so that I could show they are hypocrites but they're obviously not


A vote in the European Parliament: REPORT with recommendations to the Commission on combating Violence Against Women - A7-0075/2014

How they voted:

[DodgyAgent]

Hitler was Austrian and married a German. Was he not a racist either?

He must have been a hypocrite though

[DodgyAgent]

Ah, like Le Front National, Jobbik, Golden dawn, et al. I didn't realise that the right wing were known for being dissidents. Possibly you should try reading some political writers instead of the Daily Populist...

UKIP are not influencing from within, thats just the problem. If they were then they would be credible...

My point was about hypocrisy which is a word you do not seem to understand. It does not matter whether UKIP's policy is working - though I would argue it clearly is because thanks to their pressure the government is moving the UK towards the exit door, the point is that they have a policy for which people have voted. The policy is to cause disruption to the EU institutions from within. Quite where the hypocrisy is I do not know.

[speling bee]

You are not really terribly bright are you? he is marrying a foreigner - nothing wrong with that (so not a racist)

Hitler was Austrian and married a German. Was he not a racist either?

[darmstadt]

It is precisely because of the dissident groups (led by UKIP) that the EU is not rapidly turning into an Orwellian nightmare.

You are not really terribly bright are you? he is marrying a foreigner - nothing wrong with that (so not a racist) and he wants the UK to control its borders. That doesn't mean that he is against Brits marrying foreigners nor even stopping immigration. His point is to not recognise the EU from within. You and all the rest of your europhile friends constantly argue that Britain should influence from within so why should not UKIP? Their way of representing Britains best interests is for Britain to withdraw. if that means declining to vote on issues then so be it.

Have you ever read anything other than a computer manual? try reading a few of the political writers in the press and you might then understand what hypocrisy means.

Ah, like Le Front National, Jobbik, Golden dawn, et al. I didn't realise that the right wing were known for being dissidents. Possibly you should try reading some political writers instead of the Daily Populist...

UKIP are not influencing from within, thats just the problem. If they were then they would be credible...

[DodgyAgent]

I don't know, how about employing his wife who is German, and stating that British people aren't good enough to do this job? Why is she taking a British citizen's job? Who pays his salary by the way, the people who he wants to get rid of, still. Or:

And migration or as its put, the ‘Right of Free Movement in the EU’ of which earlier this year there was a vote on it in the European Parliament yet where was Farage, not there (apparently at home in the UK)! Nigel Farage’s absence from this vote on the issue of free movement in the EU highlights once again the glaring hypocrisy of UKIP. They jump on the populist bandwagon and argue for tougher immigration rules, yet when these rules are being decided upon, they are nowhere to be seen.

As one MEP put it:

You are not really terribly bright are you? he is marrying a foreigner - nothing wrong with that (so not a racist) and he wants the UK to control its borders. That doesn't mean that he is against Brits marrying foreigners nor even stopping immigration. His point is to not recognise the EU from within. You and all the rest of your europhile friends constantly argue that Britain should influence from within so why should not UKIP? Their way of representing Britains best interests is for Britain to withdraw. if that means declining to vote on issues then so be it.

Have you ever read anything other than a computer manual? try reading a few of the political writers in the press and you might then understand what hypocrisy means.

[darmstadt]

I am still trying to work out what hypocrisy Farage is guilty of.

I don't know, how about employing his wife who is German, and stating that British people aren't good enough to do this job? Why is she taking a British citizen's job? Who pays his salary by the way, the people who he wants to get rid of, still. Or:

In 2010, Nigel Farage told Jeremy Paxman that, if a Ukip government ever existed, it would increase defence spending by 25 percent. Now, on the cusp of the European Elections, the party is campaigning on cuts to foreign aid. Money sent to developing nations is, Ukip argues, a waste – why should Britain busy itself with the affairs of foreigners?

It's hard to miss the hypocrisy. Ukip's cuts to foreign aid have nothing to do with saving money or reducing the deficit. In fact, unless the foreign aid budget was reduced to zero, a 25% increase in defence spending would actually mean the UK was spending more money than it is now.

The Department for International Development says around £11bn is spent by the UK on foreign assistance each year. The defence budget for 2013, meanwhile, was £42bn. A 25% increase on that would total, roughly, another £11bn. Unless the entire foreign aid budget was rerouted to defence, Farage's proposed 25% increase would actually place the UK further out of pocket.

And migration or as its put, the ‘Right of Free Movement in the EU’ of which earlier this year there was a vote on it in the European Parliament yet where was Farage, not there (apparently at home in the UK)! Nigel Farage’s absence from this vote on the issue of free movement in the EU highlights once again the glaring hypocrisy of UKIP. They jump on the populist bandwagon and argue for tougher immigration rules, yet when these rules are being decided upon, they are nowhere to be seen.

As one MEP put it:

“It is disappointing that time and again UKIP MEPs refuse to take part and engage in the European Union legislative process on key issues which affect Britain, ” he added. “They are more interested in complaining, and trying to score easy political points by bashing our European allies and trading partners. Now more than ever is the time for a reasoned debate on the issue of immigration. The British people need to be presented with clear facts rather than cheap rhetoric that does nothing but tarnish Britain’s reputation.”

[Mich the Tester]

Harrumph!

[DodgyAgent]

Yep, its (AFAIK) Nathan Gill as apparently Farage doesn't know how to use a phone

I am still trying to work out what hypocrisy Farage is guilty of.

[darmstadt]

That isn't Farage circled. He was standing lower and further to the right in your photo.

Yep, its (AFAIK) Nathan Gill as apparently Farage doesn't know how to use a phone

[speling bee]

[CloudWalker]

I didnt know UKIP practice Discommendation

[vetran]

It is precisely because of the dissident groups (led by UKIP soon to be made illegal) that the EU is not the happy smiley place where everyone speaks German or French and works in the salt mines while our betters lord it over us

FTFY