Canada gets to grip with undercutting by onshored intra-company transfer workers

[vetran]

I agree exclude expenses.

I would also set the salary at the 90th percentile for the relevant pay range, these are of course exceptional staff that aren't available in the UK.

Taxation would be from day one and monthly so they can't spend six months here and six months in India and avoid tax. so £60K salary declared they would pay six months PAYE as if they were going to work all year.

And no subbing out.

That would sort the men from the boys. But of course they would just pay them for 6 months and give them an unpaid internship for 6 months.

[backthemac]

They'd just close down the debate by accussing you of being racist

I'm sure they would like to try, unfortunately for them I don't care where the onshored workers come from and I'm not for imposing any sort of quota, if they genuinely need to be here fine but they shouldn't come here by undercutting resident workers.

I just want business expenses excluded from the UKBA definition of salary just like they already do for chefs (standard occupation code 5435)

Their sponsors can then decide if they want to onshore them at the UK taxable salary rate or hire a resident worker or contractor instead.

[MicrosoftBob]

I'm not so sure. Using the governments own pay scale tables for migrant IT workers on a rate of £30,000 over £250m is lost because of the UKBA rules in treating business expenses as 'salary' for onshored workers to get to the rate required for the visa. As most of these bods are working on client contract and the rates will be double that you are looking at over £500m per annum as a subsidy to their sponsoring companies.

I would like to see Cameron or Clegg put on the spot and defend that in the run up to the next election. They have no problem bashing the bankers or Amazon or Google but then that is easy because they cannot do anything about that. Here they can.

They'd just close down the debate by accussing you of being racist

[backthemac]

With pressure groups like the 'Friend of India' in Parliament lobbying for more offshoring, you've got more chance of get IR35 scrapped

I'm not so sure. Using the governments own pay scale tables for migrant IT workers on a rate of £30,000 over £250m is lost because of the UKBA rules in treating business expenses as 'salary' for onshored workers to get to the rate required for the visa. As most of these bods are working on client contract and the rates will be double that you are looking at over £500m per annum as a subsidy to their sponsoring companies.

I would like to see Cameron or Clegg put on the spot and defend that in the run up to the next election. They have no problem bashing the bankers or Amazon or Google but then that is easy because they cannot do anything about that. Here they can.

[vetran]

With pressure groups like the 'Friend of India' in Parliament lobbying for more offshoring, you've got more chance of get IR35 scrapped

well if it gets exposure then things might change, we thought we were never going to get immigration down or a vote on the EU but it may happen now.

[MicrosoftBob]

With pressure groups like the 'Friend of India' in Parliament lobbying for more offshoring, you've got more chance of get IR35 scrapped

[DodgyAgent]

Ok I'll send it to his MP also!

[BoredBloke]

everyone should do the same

Ok I'll send it to his MP also!

[CoolCat]

Already sent it to my MP

everyone should do the same

[DodgyAgent]

Already sent it to my MP

[vetran]

looks really good, when can we implement in UK?

maybe worth sending to our Nige to raise as an issue?

If Canada succeed then UK could follow.

[mudskipper]

Someone in Canada appears to have woken up to what is going on and no pissing about with some 'review' to kick it into the long grass for 18 months as happens here in the UK when they want to avoid making any decision which requires a bit of backbone.

In Canada this change is with immediate effect.

Expanded Guidelines for Officers Assessing Work Permit Applications for Intra-Company Transferees with Specialized Knowledge

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They're still on classic ASP?

[backthemac]

Someone in Canada appears to have woken up to what is going on and no pissing about with some 'review' to kick it into the long grass for 18 months as happens here in the UK when they want to avoid making any decision which requires a bit of backbone.

In Canada this change is with immediate effect.

Expanded Guidelines for Officers Assessing Work Permit Applications for Intra-Company Transferees with Specialized Knowledge

BackTheMAC - Home