Reply to: Petition to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities

[Troll]

woooooh .. that is the best suggestion I've ever read on this forum ....


Sharia law??? how many Arabic countries actually adopt Sharia law ... up to recently it was only Saudi but with American help Iraq is heading that way ....



P.S. Iran is not an Arabic country .. its an Islamic country .. there is a difference ... (same goes for Pakistan, Afghanistan etc etc))

Persian... as in rug

[Paddy]

The other slight difficulty is that reactors don't produce enriched uranium, they consume it... to produce plutonium and a shedload of nasty fission products.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

It’s not possible to control the fission process without electronic chips. The best way to stop proliferation is to shutdown the fission chip shops.

[lilelvis2000]

kill it. kill it real good. dum dee dum dum dum dum da da da da da dum dee dum..

[oraclesmith]

Time to kill this thread I think. It's only anyway and we don't really want to encourage it.

Any ideas ?

[zamzummim]

Personally I think we should nuke Israel. This would make all the Arab countries happy and stop terrorism.

Easy.

woooooh .. that is the best suggestion I've ever read on this forum ....


Sharia law??? how many Arabic countries actually adopt Sharia law ... up to recently it was only Saudi but with American help Iraq is heading that way ....



P.S. Iran is not an Arabic country .. its an Islamic country .. there is a difference ... (same goes for Pakistan, Afghanistan etc etc))

[oraclesmith]

While you are reading this, the Iranian reactor produces enriched bomb-grade uranium. Terrorists can deliver that bomb to your city, and it can kill you and your children. Yet the government does nothing. Do we demand violence? Not in any common sense. Similarly, police use force to arrest criminals in order to stop violence. But Iran is not a criminal? Wrong. Iran has proven malicious intent. Iran, under the current regime, conducted many terrorist bombings in the West, and sponsors deadly terrorists. Iranian leaders repeatedly called for fight against the United States and annihilation of Israel. Perhaps Iran needs nuclear weapons for self-defense? No. Iran already bullies the Middle East with its huge conventional army. No country threatens Iran. Since the eighth-century jihad and the Ottoman army at the gates of Vienna, the West has never been exposed to such threat. Iran’s several nuclear bombs can inflict more damage on America than the World War II. Never before the Islamic fundamentalists who hate the West and dream of attacking it had military might of apocalyptic dimensions. Are you crazy to doubt they will use the bomb? We call on the United States: Do not hesitate. Protect your people. Protect your allies. Destroy the Iranian reactor!To sign the petition, visit http://terrorismisrael.com/nuclear_iran.htm

Sorry to pour cold water on your idea, Sheila, but how exactly are you going to use a petition to destroy a nuclear reactor ? Maybe if it gets big enough you could hire a plane and drop it down one of the cooling towers. Might stuff it up and go bang. But then again maybe not.

[AlfredJPruffock]

In the heart of Tehran sits one of Iran's most important nuclear facilities, a dome-shaped building where scientists have conducted secret experiments that could help the country build atomic bombs.

It was provided to the Iranians by the United States.

The Tehran Research Reactor represents a little-known aspect of the international uproar over the country's alleged weapons program.

Not only did the U.S. provide the reactor in the 1960s as part of a Cold War strategy, America also supplied the weapons-grade uranium needed to power the facility—fuel that remains in Iran and could be used to help make nuclear arms.


As the U.S. and other countries wrestle with Iran's refusal this week to curb its nuclear capabilities, an examination of the Tehran facility sheds light on the degree to which the United States has been complicit in Iran developing those capabilities.

Though the International Atomic Energy Agency, the United Nations' nuclear watchdog, has found no proof Iran is building a bomb, the agency says the country has repeatedly concealed its nuclear activities from inspectors. And some of these activities have taken place in the U.S.-supplied reactor, IAEA records show, including experiments with uranium, a key material in the production of nuclear weapons.

U.S. officials point to these activities as evidence Iran is trying to construct nuclear arms, but they do not publicly mention that the work has taken place in a U.S.-supplied facility.

The U.S. provided the reactor when America was eager to prop up the shah, who also was aligned against the Soviet Union at the time. After the Islamic revolution toppled the shah in 1979, the reactor became a reminder that in geopolitics, today's ally can become tomorrow's threat.

Also missing from the current debate over Iran's nuclear intentions is emerging evidence that its research program may be more troubled than previously known.

The Bush administration has portrayed the program as a sophisticated operation that has skillfully hid its true mission of making the bomb. But in the case of the Tehran Research Reactor, a study by a top Iranian scientist suggests otherwise.

After a serious accident in 2001 at the U.S.-supplied reactor, the scientist concluded that poor quality control at the facility was a "chronic disease." Problems included carelessness, sloppy bookkeeping and a staff so poorly trained that workers had a weak understanding of "the most basic and simple principles of physics and mathematics," according to the study, presented at an international nuclear conference in 2004 in France.

The Iranian scientist, Morteza Gharib, told the Tribune that management of the facility had improved in the past three years. When asked whether sloppiness at the reactor might have contributed to some of Iran's troubles with the IAEA, Gharib wrote in an email: "It is always possible, for any system, to commit infractions inadvertently due to lack of proper bookkeeping."

[AlfredJPruffock]

While you are reading this, the Iranian reactor produces enriched bomb-grade uranium. Terrorists can deliver that bomb to your city, and it can kill you and your children. Yet the government does nothing. Do we demand violence? Not in any common sense. Similarly, police use force to arrest criminals in order to stop violence. But Iran is not a criminal? Wrong. Iran has proven malicious intent. Iran, under the current regime, conducted many terrorist bombings in the West, and sponsors deadly terrorists. Iranian leaders repeatedly called for fight against the United States and annihilation of Israel. Perhaps Iran needs nuclear weapons for self-defense? No. Iran already bullies the Middle East with its huge conventional army. No country threatens Iran. Since the eighth-century jihad and the Ottoman army at the gates of Vienna, the West has never been exposed to such threat. Iran’s several nuclear bombs can inflict more damage on America than the World War II. Never before the Islamic fundamentalists who hate the West and dream of attacking it had military might of apocalyptic dimensions. Are you crazy to doubt they will use the bomb? We call on the United States: Do not hesitate. Protect your people. Protect your allies. Destroy the Iranian reactor!To sign the petition, visit http://terrorismisrael.com/nuclear_iran.htm

Well and Good ...

But has it occured to you that you dont need to use a nuclear reactor to have nuclear weapons; just ask Ukraine who are currently missing some 300 ICBMs which Russia suspects were sold to Iran; and Pakistan dont seem to care who, they give the know how to...

As for no country threating Iran; erm have you heard of the Axis Of Evil ...

Finally beware of Christian fundamentalists whom desire total oblivion in the Middle East to fulfill their Biblical Rapture prophecy ....

[stackpole]

If more robust action had been taken against India & Pakistan then maybe we could have claimed the moral high ground

Oh, do India and Pakistan also have a government policy to destroy Israel?

[AtW]

I have an alternative suggestion that is cheap and will defuse the situation completely - everyone in Israel and the West will just convert to Islam: luckily that religion allows this to happen regardless of skin colour etc, also it will give chance to pick a new fancy name, perhaps one from CUK board?

There might be slight problem with Chico, but I am sure we can find some easy solution to this one too...make him a mad mullah perhaps?

hth

[xoggoth]

Bit of a wasteful strategy there since India/Pakistan are nuclear powers. Maybe Blair should offer to go out and mediate on the Kashmir question, that should do it.

[Diestl]

If we nuke Iran/Iraq then Pakistan and India, we would free up lots of IT contracts for us and drive the price back up to 1k an hour.

[xoggoth]

Did anyone see that news item on Palestine a few weeks back? Palestinian kids were being brought up to get glory by making themselves suicide bombers against Israel. Now if this had been with the intention of regaining their country one could understand it but there was little mention of that, the glorious martyrdom was a goal in itself.

The problem is Islam. Take away wordly considerations, any tendency to weigh advantages and disadvantages and substitute a dogma that promises reward for pointless acts and rational thinking is the inevitable casualty.

I agree with the original poster. A nuclear armed Islamic country does not bear thinking about. We are not at that point yet but in the diplomatic jargon there should be "no option ruled out".

[VectraMan]

Iran, under the current regime, conducted many terrorist bombings in the West, and sponsors deadly terrorists.

Unlike the kind of terrorists that just tickle people?

[Troll]

So, let's nuke india, pakistan, north korea and iran, and quick.

Oops... and russia, and america.... which is where all this started.


To quote Mr Dim Prawn, Esquire...

"Doomed"

I think you just need to work on the order

Iran, Pakistan,NK & then India