Reply to: Sochi; trouble's brewing again

[Wanderer]

BBC News - Pussy Riot whipped at Sochi Games by Cossacks

young ladies being whipped - mmmmmm

Surely the headline should be "Pussy Whipped"....

[MicrosoftBob]

The trouble is the Ukranians look at Poland where the economy has boomed and they think "**** that, the EU with it's complex legal frameworks and rule of law is a much better bet than an economy based on oligarchs and mafioso". Putin wants to build a trading bloc to rival the EU but the way he's going about it based on coercion means it will fall apart at the first opportunity. If they get involved without popular support they are looking at another Chechen conflict, and one thing they don't have is popular support.

It all went wrong when Yeltsin made Putin his annoited sucessor, I can't imagine that was by choice though

[suityou01]

The trouble is the Ukranians look at Poland where the economy has boomed and they think "**** that, the EU with it's complex legal frameworks and rule of law is a much better bet than an economy based on oligarchs and mafioso". Putin wants to build a trading bloc to rival the EU but the way he's going about it based on coercion means it will fall apart at the first opportunity. If they get involved without popular support they are looking at another Chechen conflict, and one thing they don't have is popular support.

Doesn't bear thinking about.

[doodab]

Russia don't really think of the Ukraine as a proper country. They are pulling it back under their control. The last thing they is for the PM to resign. They want to let this spiral out of control, then mop up and say "told you so" and (further) embarass the west.

The trouble is the Ukranians look at Poland where the economy has boomed and they think "**** that, the EU with it's complex legal frameworks and rule of law is a much better bet than an economy based on oligarchs and mafioso". Putin wants to build a trading bloc to rival the EU but the way he's going about it based on coercion means it will fall apart at the first opportunity. If they get involved without popular support they are looking at another Chechen conflict, and one thing they don't have is popular support.

[suityou01]

So is it really Russia trying to stir things up or this their more to this ?

Russia don't really think of the Ukraine as a proper country. They are pulling it back under their control. The last thing they is for the PM to resign. They want to let this spiral out of control, then mop up and say "told you so" and (further) embarass the west.

[d000hg]

Gays are all humans but humans aren't all gays.

[MicrosoftBob]

I wonder if the Daily Wail intended to suggest 'humans' and 'gays' are somehow different?

Wasn't that a bestseller "Humans come from Earth, gays come from Uranus"

[Mich the Tester]

I wonder if the Daily Wail intended to suggest 'humans' and 'gays' are somehow different?

Pussy Riot, a performance-art collective involving a loose membership of feminists who edit their actions into music videos, has become an international flashpoint for those who contend Vladimir Putin's government has exceeded its authority, particularly restricting human and gay rights.


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[MicrosoftBob]

So is it really Russia trying to stir things up or this their more to this ?

[Bunk]

How typically british. Hargreaves, the Ukrainian ambassador will be arriving at 4. We will take tea in the drawing room.

Meanwhile in Ukraine .... <rat-a-tat-tat-rat-a-tat-tat-rat-a-tat-tat-rat-a-tat-tat-/>

Needs more than an ambassador flying to the UK to have a cup of tea

Shouldn't he be here already? I thought that was point of an ambassador.

[suityou01]

11:46: BREAKING: Britain has summoned Ukraine's ambassador to London on Thursday after violent clashes in Kiev killed at least 21 civilians today, Reuters say.

"We are calling in the ambassador and calling on him to stop the violence," said a foreign ministry spokeswoman.

How typically british. Hargreaves, the Ukrainian ambassador will be arriving at 4. We will take tea in the drawing room.

Meanwhile in Ukraine .... <rat-a-tat-tat-rat-a-tat-tat-rat-a-tat-tat-rat-a-tat-tat-/>

Needs more than an ambassador flying to the UK to have a cup of tea

[suityou01]

The protestors are armed with guns as well. It's a proper ******* mess out there. Very sad.

Martial law coming soon I would have thought.

[doodab]

This is horrible.

The protestors are armed with guns as well. It's a proper ******* mess out there. Very sad.

[suityou01]

10:51: Kateryna Kruk, the Guardian tweets: "Snipers are shooting from from Hotel Ukraina and Instytutsjka, more dead around"

This is horrible.

[suityou01]

Truce comes to violent end

Back on topic :

Ukraine truce collapses

BBC News - LIVE: Ukraine truce collapses

10:44: Thirteen of the protesters killed in Independence Square on Thursday morning died from single gunshot wounds fired by a sniper, a medic in Independence Square tells Interfax-Ukraine news agency.