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Previously on "Anyone know anything about agency or client black listing?"

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    I have 3 things on the go at the minute and I'm hopeless according to CUK.
    No suity, you are useless.

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  • DirtyDog
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    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    I have 3 things on the go at the minute and I'm hopeless according to CUK.

    Make of that what you will.
    The sun shines on a dog's arse some days.

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
    Perhaps try submitting a (slightly altered) CV under a false name, and see whether it gets an interview?
    Yes, or even use the convenient fact that most of us have more than one christian name. You don't have to falsify anything then.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by TransitTrucker View Post
    As a contract PM in some large companies, I have also worked on the recruiting side of this as well. I have a few pet agents who I have fed work to (no backhanders before anyone asks). As a consequence, they have been quite candid with me of late. Here are a few quotes from a couple of agents who are about my age (been around a while - grew up in the industry).
    1. "I send perfect matches and the client rejects them. I send "no hopers" and they take them on!";
    2. "It is entirely a matter of luck";
    3. "The clients aren't in the least bit clear about what they want";
    4. "It isn't what you know, it is who you know";


    Make of this anything you want.

    TT
    Deffo Luck if you ask me. I've had same. Gigs where I'm perfect match no joy, gigs where I've got one/two skills I've got.

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  • Ticktock
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    Originally posted by Dactylion View Post
    Was one of these from the wrong sockie login?
    Originally posted by TransitTrucker View Post
    Can you reword that please.
    Login the wrong sockie for one of these?

    HTH.

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  • suityou01
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    I have 3 things on the go at the minute and I'm hopeless according to CUK.

    Make of that what you will.

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  • TransitTrucker
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    Originally posted by Dactylion View Post
    Was one of these from the wrong sockie login?
    Can you reword that please.

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  • Dactylion
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    Originally posted by TransitTrucker View Post
    Just wondered if I am on a black list since I don't seem to be able to find work even when my skills match 100%?

    Maybe i was just cr4p and the word got round. . .
    Originally posted by TransitTrucker View Post
    As a contract PM in some large companies, I have also worked on the recruiting side of this as well. I have a few pet agents who I have fed work to (no backhanders before anyone asks). As a consequence, they have been quite candid with me of late. Here are a few quotes from a couple of agents who are about my age (been around a while - grew up in the industry).
    1. "I send perfect matches and the client rejects them. I send "no hopers" and they take them on!";
    2. "It is entirely a matter of luck";
    3. "The clients aren't in the least bit clear about what they want";
    4. "It isn't what you know, it is who you know";


    Make of this anything you want.

    TT
    Was one of these from the wrong sockie login?

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  • TransitTrucker
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    As a contract PM in some large companies, I have also worked on the recruiting side of this as well. I have a few pet agents who I have fed work to (no backhanders before anyone asks). As a consequence, they have been quite candid with me of late. Here are a few quotes from a couple of agents who are about my age (been around a while - grew up in the industry).
    1. "I send perfect matches and the client rejects them. I send "no hopers" and they take them on!";
    2. "It is entirely a matter of luck";
    3. "The clients aren't in the least bit clear about what they want";
    4. "It isn't what you know, it is who you know";


    Make of this anything you want.

    TT

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  • KentPhilip
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    Perhaps try submitting a (slightly altered) CV under a false name, and see whether it gets an interview?

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  • Dactylion
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    Originally posted by Dactylion
    Even Suity get's contracts

    Draw your own conclusion

    HTH

    PS - This is general
    FTFY
    Where are the grammar police when you need them?

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by Dactylion View Post
    Even Suity get's contracts

    Draw your own conclusion

    HTH

    PS - This is general
    FTFY

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  • TransitTrucker
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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    WHS.

    I know some agents personally and they are quite clear that they don't have blacklists and they wouldn't consider it a good idea. Think about it; they're in business to make money, just like you. If you put people on blacklists and then, even worse, share that information with others, they're likely to find out and then put you on a blacklist and tell all their mates and damage your business.

    You need to look critically at your skills and CV, maybe make an appointment with an agent you've worked with in the past to see if he can advise, or do what I did; hire a professional copywriter for a couple of hours to help you build a good CV and covering letter.

    Do not start believing that there's a conspiracy against you (such as a blacklist); you are not important enough for people to spend their time conspiring against you. Plus; anyone who's done several contracts is likely to have done a couple where it didn't go so well as they'd hoped and agents and clientcos know that anyway.
    I've taken a paranoia pill now. All is well. . .

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by CheeseSlice View Post
    Its a sales organisation. They'd literally flog dead horses to a stupid enough client. Thinking abput it, given the aptitude and attention span of some agents I've dealt with they probably would believe the dead horse was a good match for a role too.
    WHS.

    I know some agents personally and they are quite clear that they don't have blacklists and they wouldn't consider it a good idea. Think about it; they're in business to make money, just like you. If you put people on blacklists and then, even worse, share that information with others, they're likely to find out and then put you on a blacklist and tell all their mates and damage your business.

    You need to look critically at your skills and CV, maybe make an appointment with an agent you've worked with in the past to see if he can advise, or do what I did; hire a professional copywriter for a couple of hours to help you build a good CV and covering letter.

    Do not start believing that there's a conspiracy against you (such as a blacklist); you are not important enough for people to spend their time conspiring against you. Plus; anyone who's done several contracts is likely to have done a couple where it didn't go so well as they'd hoped and agents and clientcos know that anyway.

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  • cojak
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Last I heard, the dreary old queen and popped over to the Dutch Antilles to upgrade the greylist
    Oh, well done that man!

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