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Previously on "HMRC 'lost nerve' over big tax avoiders, say MPs"

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by zeitghost
    about 15k pages now, is it not?

    Well, maybe not, but it's getting there:

    New Research: The length of Tolley
    "The handbook of tax legislation has doubled in length to 11,520 pages since 1997, making it one of the longest in the world."

    Fortunately Brown won't get the chance.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by zeitghost
    Brown peaked in 2004 with his Finance Act of 650 pages. Magnificent.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by zeitghost
    Probably not.

    And fecking up all those pensions at a stroke was inspired as well.
    Clever.

    I rather admired how he doubled the amount of tax legislation.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by zeitghost
    I thought that selling all that gold at a record low by announcing it in advance was a stroke of inspired genius.
    No-one else would have thought of doing that.

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  • Zero Liability
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Govt is not very good at reducing itself.
    Partially because we're too easily bribed by it and too passive in accepting the nonsense politicians feed us. This is supposedly a democratic country.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by hyperD View Post
    Gordon Brown was the worst prime minister the UK ever had the misfortune to be inflicted with.

    He rode on The Reign of Terror™ (circa 1997-2010), removed the tax dividend credit on pensions, cowardly signed us up to the new EU non-negotiable treaties, served Corporatocracy, thus ruining the wealth of the best pension system in the world, laughingly called a member of the working classes a bigot, made a clusterf uck in the HoC saying he saved the world from boom and bust, and threw nokias in frustrations that he realised he was a total retard?

    And you say he believed what he was doing? Yes you are right, he did. He's a f ucking sociopath. And herein, for of all history to record his clusterf uck, lies his impact on the UK economy, getting less remuneration, post parasitis than the c unt Bliar did. Oh, the humanity...
    During his first seven or eight years, many people were calling him a genius (including esteemed members of the PCG), and the best chancellor we'd had. Do people on here remember that?

    That just goes to show how much Joe Public knows about economics!

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  • expat
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Govt is not very good at reducing itself.
    and it's already failing in a lot of areas due to parsimony (as well as incompetence of course).

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by hyperD View Post
    By reducing the government? And thus by reducing the taxes and encouraging SMEs?
    Govt is not very good at reducing itself.

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  • hyperD
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    So how exactly it would better if Govt had to make up for the shortfall by taking even more tax from normal people who can't go offshore?
    By reducing the government? And thus by reducing the taxes and encouraging SMEs?

    Oh, god forbid any politician would say such a thing if it would affect their re-election!

    Bastards the lot of them.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    I am strongly opposed to any efforts to take more tax off multinationals because given the spending record of governments, it will only lead to more debt.
    So how exactly it would better if Govt had to make up for the shortfall by taking even more tax from normal people who can't go offshore?

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  • hyperD
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Gordon Brown believed in what he was doing unlike Blair and the present lot. Blair and these lot just use focus groups or get one of their "think tanks " to announce some potential policy to test it with the public.
    Gordon Brown was the worst prime minister the UK ever had the misfortune to be inflicted with.

    He rode on The Reign of Terror™ (circa 1997-2010), removed the tax dividend credit on pensions, cowardly signed us up to the new EU non-negotiable treaties, served Corporatocracy, thus ruining the wealth of the best pension system in the world, laughingly called a member of the working classes a bigot, made a clusterf uck in the HoC saying he saved the world from boom and bust, and threw nokias in frustrations that he realised he was a total retard?

    And you say he believed what he was doing? Yes you are right, he did. He's a f ucking sociopath. And herein, for of all history to record his clusterf uck, lies his impact on the UK economy, getting less remuneration, post parasitis than the c unt Bliar did. Oh, the humanity...

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  • xoggoth
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    seemed like a decent bloke - came across as a lot more sincere than those that preceded and succeeded him
    Rather agree but then it isn't personality or intentions that should matter but results. They make him a disaster. I was quite impressed by some of his speeches, lots of facts and he made sense. Trouble is, nearly everything he actually did was crap.
    Last edited by xoggoth; 19 December 2013, 23:02.

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  • Zero Liability
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    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    At the risk of a lynching, I quite liked him. Sure, he might have messed up the economy a little bit, but he seemed like a decent bloke - came across as a lot more sincere than those that preceded and succeeded him.
    Presumably why he didn't do well in politics, either.

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by kal View Post
    Where do I sign up
    Get in the queue sunshine, make sure you give me room for a decent run-up.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by hyperD View Post
    My god, my dear mudskipper, we're going to have a good sit down and talk about this. I'm going to have to bring out the corn dogs and cookies at this rate!
    Gordon Brown believed in what he was doing unlike Blair and the present lot. Blair and these lot just use focus groups or get one of their "think tanks " to announce some potential policy to test it with the public.

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