Reply to: Much Visas plenty cheapness

[vetran]

I can't do that; my fingers are all so fooked I have to get Lady Tester to remove lids from jars. She's a strong woman until she sees a spider.

Here you go, for the gadget mad!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Culinare-Tou...jar+lid+opener

yes they make an automated lid remover.

But these style are quite good Mrs V had a pseudo Aunty who had very bad arthritis.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PIECE-ADJUST...jar+lid+opener

or she used a tea towel which gave her the extra grip needed.

Family V are just the same, masculinity is required for :

Pet Poo.
Blocked Drains
Blocked loo
spiders including daddy longlegs.
Jars

[Mich the Tester]

We are Wimmin

We are strong*






* until we need someone to get the lid of the pickle jar

I can't do that; my fingers are all so fooked I have to get Lady Tester to remove lids from jars. She's a strong woman until she sees a spider.

[original PM]

We are Wimmin

We are strong*






* until we need someone to get the lid of the pickle jar

[DodgyAgent]

Oh, do sod off. It's exactly that - labelling women as 'feminists' or 'victims' or other hysterical labels that prevents sensible discussion.

I think they label themselves as that.

[oracleslave]

Oh, do sod off. It's exactly that - labelling women as 'feminists' or 'victims' or other hysterical labels that prevents sensible discussion.

Cup of tea? I'll make it

[MicrosoftBob]

Oh, do sod off. It's exactly that - labelling women as 'feminists' or 'victims' or other hysterical labels that prevents sensible discussion.

We won't mention feminazis then :nazi:

[mudskipper]

Don't forget women are victims

Oh, do sod off. It's exactly that - labelling women as 'feminists' or 'victims' or other hysterical labels that prevents sensible discussion.

[DodgyAgent]

good point, well made.

Its strange how positive discrimination is completely absent in areas like Nursing, primary school teachers, childcare, home care.

The point about teachers is many of the male teachers had a long career in a traditionally male career (secondary school teachers were predominantly male in the 20s-70s.) They are now retiring and females are taking over, if they are the best man for the job then fine. But if it should be a Mann then its a negative step.

As dodgy pointed out to get to the top tends to need total dedication. If you want to be a mum then that isn't possible for 5 years or more while the kids are young.


Don't suggest to one of my girls that you have to be a boy to be a firefighter (yes they de gendered it despite a complete lack of need.) she is determined to join and I'm pretty sure she will succeed.

Don't forget women are victims

[Mich the Tester]

It is good enough for me. As long as Nige doesn't succumb to this

Ukip Rejects Joining Far-Right Leader Geert Wilders for European Parliament Elections - IBTimes UK

He's certainly better off staying away from them. Not that I'd support Mr Farage, but he's at least demonstrated a modicum of decency there. Wilders and Le Pen are nasty pieces of work.

But as for that article;

According to polls, the PVV looks set to gain its highest number of votes in the forthcoming Dutch elections.

The 'forthcoming Dutch elections' are scheduled for 2016 unless the cabinet collapses before then and both ruling parties are committed to sticking it out to avoid losing to Wilders and want to have the economy recovering before elections. There are council elections next year and PVV might get a lot of votes there, but actually they don't put up candidates in many places because they don't want to have any responsibility when things go wrong.

[vetran]

Hang on shouldn't you be arguing that there should be more male teachers then, or does your view suddenly change when women are in the majority ?

good point, well made.

Its strange how positive discrimination is completely absent in areas like Nursing, primary school teachers, childcare, home care.

The point about teachers is many of the male teachers had a long career in a traditionally male career (secondary school teachers were predominantly male in the 20s-70s.) They are now retiring and females are taking over, if they are the best man for the job then fine. But if it should be a Mann then its a negative step.

As dodgy pointed out to get to the top tends to need total dedication. If you want to be a mum then that isn't possible for 5 years or more while the kids are young.


Don't suggest to one of my girls that you have to be a boy to be a firefighter (yes they de gendered it despite a complete lack of need.) she is determined to join and I'm pretty sure she will succeed.

[mudskipper]

Hang on shouldn't you be arguing that there should be more male teachers then, or does your view suddenly change when women are in the majority ?

Yes, there should - and I'm quite happy to argue that on your behalf if you feel unable to do so yourself.

[MicrosoftBob]

Teaching's a good example where things have changed. The majority of teachers are female, but the majority of head teachers are male. This was recognised as an issue that had nothing to do with the capability of the candidates, so there was a conscious effort to make promotion paths more female friendly and the situation is a lot better.

Hang on shouldn't you be arguing that there should be more male teachers then, or does your view suddenly change when women are in the majority ?

[DodgyAgent]

I'm sure you will. You fit the demographic to a tee: not very well-educated, hence threatened by globalisation, white male.

It is good enough for me. As long as Nige doesn't succumb to this

Ukip Rejects Joining Far-Right Leader Geert Wilders for European Parliament Elections - IBTimes UK

[sasguru]

i will be voting UKIP.

I'm sure you will. You fit the demographic to a tee: not very well-educated, hence threatened by globalisation, white male.

[DodgyAgent]

I think it's a lot to do with people's sense of identity and where they obtain their sense of self worth. For a lot of men, their work is the main contributor to their sense of their own value, it's literally the meaning of life to them, to the extent that being fired or retiring can leave them psychologically devastated. Women are unbalanced for different reasons.

FTFY