Reply to: Woman tried and sentenced without her knowing it

[Ticktock]

Are you sure about that?

It would appear to me that it increasingly has.

Yes and no.

In certain circumstances, legal precedence from jurisdictions including the US and Canada can be used for guidance in determining UK case law, generally where there is no existing UK precedent.

[MaryPoppins]

I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

[SimonMac]

Have a read

Be sure to read the bit about America down the bottom, won't you be a dear?

This is similar to the right to silence clause in the Miranda Warning in the US.

sim·i·lar
/ˈsimələr/
Adjective
Having a resemblance in appearance, character, or quantity, without being identical

So does that mean they are the same or different

[Ticktock]

Reading the above thread, I'm beginning to think suity and scooterscot are the same person.

[suityou01]

Simpering drivel

Good so we're agreed.

Man I'm on fire today.

[centurian]

It is known as being "Mirandarised" here in the UK

First I've heard of it being used here - I thought the term "under caution" was used in the UK.

[DirtyDog]

Have a read

Be sure to read the bit about America down the bottom, won't you be a dear?

Be sure to read the bit about England and Wales in the middle, won't you dear?

[DirtyDog]

Miranda rights are conveyed by the arresting officer to the prisoner, but you are nearly right

No - the suspect already has the rights. The arresting officer reads the rights to remind them of them, so you are nearly right

Befire Miranda v Arizona there was no such thing as rights.

No - the rights that are conveyed (the right to silence and the right to an attorney) are given by the fifth and sixth amendments to the constitution of the United States, so you are nearly right

In this country you have the "Right to silence"

No, you don't. You have the right not to say anything but it may harm your defence if you later rely on something that you haven't said. This is significantly different from a right to silence, and was changed in 1994. So you are nearly right

which is the UK implementation of Miranda rights, but it is still Miranda rights none the less.

No, it isn't. There are other rights which a suspect is read as part of their Miranda rights, which are supplementary to the right to silence, eg the right to a lawyer. These are not part of English law. So you are nearly right

It is known as being "Mirandarised" here in the UK

Maybe in Luton. However, if you Google "Mirandarised" and "UK" you get no UK links, and such gems as "You Get Paid For Being A Jerk". If you Google "Mirandarized" with the American spelling, you get lots of American links, which suggests that it might be an American term that you've heard on TV in the UK and assumed is the same over here as it is there. So you are nearly right

[suityou01]

Quick - someone piss on suity!

One at a time! One at a time!!

[mudskipper]

I'm on fire today.

Quick - someone piss on suity!

[suityou01]

It's only "the UK implementation of Miranda rights" in the same sense that The Tower of London is the UK implementation of The Pentagon

So you agree with me

I'm on fire today.

[NickFitz]

Miranda rights are conveyed by the arresting officer to the prisoner, but you are nearly right

Befire Miranda v Arizona there was no such thing as rights. In this country you have the "Right to silence" which is the UK implementation of Miranda rights, but it is still Miranda rights none the less.

It is known as being "Mirandarised" here in the UK

It's only "the UK implementation of Miranda rights" in the same sense that The Tower of London is the UK implementation of The Pentagon

[suityou01]

Have a read

Be sure to read the bit about America down the bottom, won't you be a dear?

[suityou01]

Hang on why would the arresting officer give the person the right to silence, surely that right is given by default.

At no point in the UK is Miranda or a variance of such ever used unless its by people who don't know the correct terminology..... oh sorry Suity!

Plain wrong, sorry Simon. Why don't you got out and get arrested and report back your findings

[SimonMac]

Miranda rights are conveyed by the arresting officer to the prisoner, but you are nearly right

Befire Miranda v Arizona there was no such thing as rights. In this country you have the "Right to silence" which is the UK implementation of Miranda rights, but it is still Miranda rights none the less.

It is known as being "Mirandarised" here in the UK

Hang on why would the arresting officer give the person the right to silence, surely that right is given by default.

At no point in the UK is Miranda or a variance of such ever used unless its by people who don't know the correct terminology..... oh sorry Suity!