Benefit scroungers more likely to smoke - Wail = haters

[vetran]

Saw a couple in their car both light up, with two kids in the back. Was quite shocked, whereas 25 years ago it was the norm.

Indeed a friend of mine does that, horrifies me every time.

[vetran]

The ONS has been spouting quite a bit of crap lately - perhaps they are worried they might get canned.

what incorrect data or looking at data in a way you don't agree with?

I did rather think this was in the 'demonising the unemployed' vein.

But I suspect the data is moderately accurate. It does show the work needs to be done with a subset of the population.

Don't get me wrong I'm in favour of the smoking ban mainly, I would have just done it in two phases to let the pubs etc adjust. I was expecting a large fall in smoking after it though because it was a great catalyst.

[mudskipper]

One thing I do see is that fewer and fewer children are starting smoking and that's a positive thing.

I also think the smoking ban has had a huge impact on peoples attitudes. Many people who used to smoke in their houses (and think it was acceptable to smoke in my house) are now going outside to smoke. The ban has caused a huge change it people's attitudes to what's acceptable and what's not.

Also, I think these new electronic cigarettes are going to make a huge impact in the next few years. A lot of smokers I know have switched and don't smoke tobacco any more.

Saw a couple in their car both light up, with two kids in the back. Was quite shocked, whereas 25 years ago it was the norm.

[Wanderer]

The smoking ban doesn't seem to have changed the downward trend?

One thing I do see is that fewer and fewer children are starting smoking and that's a positive thing.

I also think the smoking ban has had a huge impact on peoples attitudes. Many people who used to smoke in their houses (and think it was acceptable to smoke in my house) are now going outside to smoke. The ban has caused a huge change it people's attitudes to what's acceptable and what's not.

Also, I think these new electronic cigarettes are going to make a huge impact in the next few years. A lot of smokers I know have switched and don't smoke tobacco any more.

[amcdonald]

It needs a politician with guts to just ban it outright

Smoking is more addictive than a lot of banned drugs, and just as harmfull

[Peoplesoft bloke]

it was actually reporting ONS statistics. There was really very little opinion in the reporting.

The thing I found interesting was the correlation between responsible job , marriage and not smoking. Plus the massive improvements in a decade.

They rarely offer an "opinion" they just report selectively and stand back - have a look at the comments.

The ONS has been spouting quite a bit of crap lately - perhaps they are worried they might get canned.

[vetran]

Would have thought the Wail would be promoting smoking for people it doesn't like as a way of getting rid of 'em.

it was actually reporting ONS statistics. There was really very little opinion in the reporting.

The thing I found interesting was the correlation between responsible job , marriage and not smoking. Plus the massive improvements in a decade.

[SimonMac]

Well as smoking is banned in the workplace you're less likely to spend all day puffing. It's common sense really.

I bet unemployed people have more sex / kids as well.

I bet unemployed people watch more TV and use more electricity. Yada yada.

Are you saying Suity is fibbing about all his contracts?

[fullyautomatix]

Would have thought the Wail would be promoting smoking for people it doesn't like as a way of getting rid of 'em.

Erm mo, thats not a good idea to get rid of them, they wont die easily and clog up the NHS and then "we" have to spend millions trying to help them survive.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Would have thought the Wail would be promoting smoking for people it doesn't like as a way of getting rid of 'em.

[MarillionFan]

Given the extra leisure time, they're also more likely to exercise, keep their houses and gardens nice, and do volunteer work.

Now you're just being silly.

[mudskipper]

Well as smoking is banned in the workplace you're less likely to spend all day puffing. It's common sense really.

I bet unemployed people have more sex / kids as well.

I bet unemployed people watch more TV and use more electricity. Yada yada.

Given the extra leisure time, they're also more likely to exercise, keep their houses and gardens nice, and do volunteer work.

[MarillionFan]

Well as smoking is banned in the workplace you're less likely to spend all day puffing. It's common sense really.

I bet unemployed people have more sex / kids as well.

I bet unemployed people watch more TV and use more electricity. Yada yada.

[vetran]

Unemployed TWICE as likely to smoke as those in work as figures show smoking ban has done little to persuade people to give up | Mail Online

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/ghs/op...classification

ONS link for Wail haters. Better graphs on Wail.

Now that is interesting, are smokers less likely to be achievers nowadays?

The smoking ban doesn't seem to have changed the downward trend?

Does a ring on your finger make you an ex smoker?