Reply to: Muslim awareness classes for schools?

[SueEllen]

Is it really a good thing for the mosques to throw out the extremists? If all they'll do is join a new mosque where they can all sit around agreeing with each other, they'll just confirm each other's idiotic ideas and then some will go postal. I think I'd prefer the more moderate mosques to keep them on board where they'll be confronted with people who think differently to themselves.

They throw them out and report them to the police so the intelligence services can keep track of them.

No Church would encourage worshippers in their congregation who don't agree with the vicar/reverend/pastor to stay so why should other religions be expected not to? Especially if one of those people is convincing sons of fellow worshippers to go to training camps abroad?

[vetran]

I thought we were supposed to call imaginary friends deities

only if they have a book out

[amcdonald]

no he isn't, its his imaginary friend!

I thought we were supposed to call imaginary friends deities

[shoes]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1816242

You're talking to yourself there.

I quoted myself. The YOU is anyone reading. The earlier quote led nicely into my even earlier points which I wanted to bring attention to.

[vetran]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1816242

You're talking to yourself there.

no he isn't, its his imaginary friend!

[Mich the Tester]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1816242

You're talking to yourself there.

[shoes]

The more civilised societies don't help themselves by refusing to acknowledge the barbarians are at the gate.

Which relates to my earlier points. Why don't YOU acknowledge the barbarians are at the gate when you see islamic inspired violence one day and walk past a mosque in your neighbourhood the next?

Unrelated some will say. Really? Explain it please. People simply refuse to think about it, refuse to engage on the issue. Im eager to hear sensible rational and reasonable opinion but all I hear is people with fingers in their ears going 'bla bla im not listening, not happening! not happening!'.

Its interesting, and also of concern.

[amcdonald]

The more civilised societies don't help themselves by refusing to acknowledge the barbarians are at the gate.

'Oh do come in, cup of tea? Oh my what a nice shiny sword you have there! very pretty! ugh!'

It didn't end up well for Rome, they caused their own downfall (insert downfall meme here...)

[shoes]

All religions are based on the suspension of logic and reason - otherwise known as "faith".

Yes they are. That is how you can tell they are invented.

[shoes]

We've long past the stage of needing to invent something to explain the universe around us to make us feel important as a species

Why do we have to accept the need for religion now, society should have moved on

I think that different civilisations have moved at different speeds in their progress. I think when we see such violence it is an effect of the incompatible nature of those more backward cultures with those that are more advanced attempting to occupy the same space. Unfortunately the more backward culture can resort to violence to try and enforce their ideas. When each side has a differing opinion of the definition of what is morally right you will have conflict. The growing pains of our collective civilisations I suppose.

The more civilised societies don't help themselves by refusing to acknowledge the barbarians are at the gate.

'Oh do come in, cup of tea? Oh my what a nice shiny sword you have there! very pretty! ugh!'

[amcdonald]

I have to agree that if that was the the purpose of religion and it was really all man made then it is pointless....

But what if you are wrong and there really is a God and that the messages contained within Judaism, Christianity, Islam all have some kind of substance and origin with the creator....

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I wouldn't care for a god that lets evil things happen

I would ignore them even if you could proof that they existed, and carry on with life

And another thing if god exists what happens to the gods that no one worships anymore do they have to resort to going on mindnumbing games shows like Celebrity Big Bhudda ?

[vetran]

Is it really a good thing for the mosques to throw out the extremists? If all they'll do is join a new mosque where they can all sit around agreeing with each other, they'll just confirm each other's idiotic ideas and then some will go postal. I think I'd prefer the more moderate mosques to keep them on board where they'll be confronted with people who think differently to themselves.

As before - Imams not followers.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

We've long past the stage of needing to invent something to explain the universe around us to make us feel important as a species

Why do we have to accept the need for religion now, society should have moved on

I have to agree that if that was the the purpose of religion and it was really all man made then it is pointless....

But what if you are wrong and there really is a God and that the messages contained within Judaism, Christianity, Islam all have some kind of substance and origin with the creator....

[amcdonald]

All religions and climate change 'scientists' are based on the suspension of logic and reason - otherwise known as "faith".

FTFY

[Wanderer]

If anyone has any other theory as to how a refusal to apply logic and reason in regard to islamic violence has come about for vast swathes of the population I'd be interested to hear it.

All religions are based on the suspension of logic and reason - otherwise known as "faith".