Reply to: Should Scotland be an independent country?

[Old Hack]

Point out to me where I've name-called or insulted you in this thread?
I know you never understood irony, but here we go again.
I think you've got nothing whatsoever to say in anything I'm interested in so I'll simply ignore you from now on.

Well, aside fro implying I was obnoxious, and banned for it incorrectly, not much. However, I don't think I am insulting you by telling you what I think of you. Every thread I have seen with you involved, will involve you, first, making a point, someone disagreeing with you, then you calling that person a cretin, or something else; you never, or rarely, try and take an argument apart, you always attack the man, which is what I have pointed out here: you had all the facts on you to prove someone wrong, but chose, instead, to insult them.

I am going to pick you up on it all the time.

And to even mention irony in the same text box as mocking someone in your sig box, something you have continually pointed out as childish, juvenile, is acutely funny.

The truth is sas, you don't have the ability to properly debate with someone who holds a different view than you, and that clearly marks you as not from the top drawer. Couple that with your desperate need to tell everyone how rich and successful you are, paints you out as a very, very sad man.

I also thought you were too grown up to have to put someone on ignore?

[sasguru]

Sas, I really don't want to start an argument, mainly as yours tend to descend into name calling ....

... I don't start insulting people until they insult me, which I believe is a fair trade off.
You're, simply put, an odious prick.
a rude, smug coont like you.

Point out to me where I've name-called or insulted you in this thread?
I know you never understood irony, but here we go again.
I think you've got nothing whatsoever to say in anything I'm interested in so I'll simply ignore you from now on.

[vetran]

More like no one cares as long as they get their state benefits

bad man!

[amcdonald]

If there were 30,000 people around then they were being very quiet and walking on tiptoes.

More like no one cares as long as they get their state benefits

[scooterscot]

No - the organisers said 30,000, the police said 8000.

Since I was actually in Edinburgh this weekend (you know, the city you love so much that you can't stand to live here) .

The city I grew up in, yes... of course. Can't stand it. Awful place. That is of you're an engineer, you'll never find work that pays a dam. A banker however.

I was wandering around the castle and the city centre, then back towards St Andrews Square during the day, and it was busy (it was a Saturday), but I didn't even know that there was a parade going on. If there were 30,000 people around then they were being very quiet and walking on tiptoes.

Should I vote no then?

[Ticktock]

Beeb reporting policy on parade numbers, divide by three. Wonder what other statistics they applied that to!

The Midlothian police website reports 30,000 out on the streets for the parade, the Beeb reported 8000.

BBC News - Scottish independence: Yes campaigners rally in Edinburgh

Although saying all that I'm not one really for parades, I'd rather debate and balanced rhetoric.

No - the organisers said 30,000, the police said 8000.

Since I was actually in Edinburgh this weekend (you know, the city you love so much that you can't stand to live here) I can categorically say that there were not 30,000 people marching through the city.
I was wandering around the castle and the city centre, then back towards St Andrews Square during the day, and it was busy (it was a Saturday), but I didn't even know that there was a parade going on. If there were 30,000 people around then they were being very quiet and walking on tiptoes.

[Old Hack]

I'll bite as the missus is a bit slow getting ready.
What "gaffe" would that be?

In his own words:

Electricity and Hot water: So not just hot water then hey old boy? You've also assumed no heating, assumed that it was a summer bill. Quarters run Jan-March, Apr-June, July-Sept and Oct - Dec in the main. So it most certainly wasn't a summer bill, and most likely, given his location, involved quite a bit of heating. No?


I seem to recall a very dull thread about cars where the word "stupid" was repeated a fair bit by yourself. Not to mention your earlier incarnation being banned for being overly obnoxious.
So looking at the facts, not attacking the man, rather a bit rich and hypocritical coming from you, what, old boy?

No, you seem to remember one side of an argument, which fits your brief; as I have said on many occasions, I don't start insulting people until they insult me, which I believe is a fair trade off.

You, meanwhile, seem to use the ad hominem as a stock argument, which is worrying. This is just another prime example. Wouldn't you say, old boy?

I don't think £260 a quarter for a sole supply of power on a flat of unknown bedrooms is too extreme; I am utterly convinced I have paid as much myself. It's uppy, but not extreme. However, you've used one part of it, even adding it to a signature, something 3 months ago you were calling childish, whilst yourself having bills of triple the size.

It's hard to discuss anything with you, as you approach it the wrong way, every time. You're, simply put, an odious prick.

FYI, I was banned for offering to go toe to toe with another member, not for being a rude, smug coont like you.

[minestrone]

Beeb reporting policy on parade numbers, divide by three. Wonder what other statistics they applied that to!

The Midlothian police website reports 30,000 out on the streets for the parade, the Beeb reported 8000.

BBC News - Scottish independence: Yes campaigners rally in Edinburgh

Although saying all that I'm not one really for parades, I'd rather debate and balanced rhetoric.

I take it you are not aware that Midlothian Police have not existed for some time.

BBC are using Police Scotland's numbers.

[scooterscot]

I refuse to believe this poster is real.

Ignorance is bliss.

[minestrone]

In any case do any of us really care about such an amount that can be earned back in a few hours of service? No. Smeg I spend more than that on restaurants per month, HTH sas.

I refuse to believe this poster is real.

[scooterscot]

Are we going to have to suffer a year of this tulip?

oh no, not at all, just the next 361 days.

[Troll]

Are we going to have to suffer a year of this tulip?

[scooterscot]

Beeb reporting policy on parade numbers, divide by three. Wonder what other statistics they applied that to!

The Midlothian police website reports 30,000 out on the streets for the parade, the Beeb reported 8000.

BBC News - Scottish independence: Yes campaigners rally in Edinburgh

Although saying all that I'm not one really for parades, I'd rather debate and balanced rhetoric.

[scooterscot]

Seems to me reading the number in here 300 euro a quarter is more than reasonable.

In any case do any of us really care about such an amount that can be earned back in a few hours of service? No. Smeg I spend more than that on restaurants per month, HTH sas.

[sasguru]

I've thanked you for the link, which was good. However, you weren't being honest about the hot water gaffe, which is what I was commenting on. For all we know, he may be getting his next one now, which covered summer..

I'll bite as the missus is a bit slow getting ready.
What "gaffe" would that be?

In his own words:

For a quarter, electricity & hot water? For less than €300? Then PM me!!

... another example of you attacking the man, not the argument ...
Curious as to why you need to do it, that's all.

I seem to recall a very dull thread about cars where the word "stupid" was repeated a fair bit by yourself. Not to mention your earlier incarnation being banned for being overly obnoxious.
So looking at the facts, not attacking the man, rather a bit rich and hypocritical coming from you, what, old boy?