Reply to: Tipping Point

[Old Hack]

When I was travelling, I got a job in a bar in California. I worked for nothing, part of the black money deal, and earned loads, I mean shed loads. If someone put their money on the bar, it was for you. Being foreign also helped, as they loved to speak to you. No measures too, so if someone was a good tipper, you gave them a bit more. I sometimes wish I had stayed.

[d000hg]

The very idea of banning tipping is simply ludicrous. It's my money and if I want to tip who the hell are you to tell me otherwise.

It was interesting travelling in Finland that there, tipping is not the norm - in some cases it may even be seen as rude to tip as a kind of backwards insult that they wouldn't be serving you well without a tip.

[VectraMan]

Child #2 has just got summer job in local harvester. As she's 20, min wage is < £5 an hour, so tips are pretty important for topping it up.

Someone like Harvester would presumably have a policy of sharing tips, and doing it properly with regards tax etc. And must have a reasonable idea what the average amount of tips would be. So in effect she's working for >£5/h, it just varies a little.

I hate it when people want exact change in restaurants. I'd much rather chuck a couple of notes on the table and whatever is extra call that a tip.

[MyUserName]

No - I wondered that. They keep tips they're given. Presume the kitchen staff don't get any (possibly get paid more?). When she's on the front desk she gets no tips - similarly behind the bar gets very little in comparison. So she likes the waitressing best.

Yeah, that is human nature in action. It is the face you actually see that gets the grief when this go wrong and the praise when things go right. Hopefully other positions get paid more to compensate but I doubt it.

[mudskipper]

When I was young, I had numerous part time jobs in the restaurant industry, I never once delared my tips (and have no recollection of anyone else doing it). But it causes all sorts of issues, my friends girfiend works at a chain of seafood restaurants, they struggle to find the best waitresses because the tips are pooled and paid as part of their salary which is subject to tax.

Cash is kept, tips added to the bill come with the salary. So if you want your waiter to pay tax, add the tip to the credit card.

Most are students/part time, so not earning enough to pay tax anyway, so it's largely academic.

[mudskipper]

Never thought about it like that, they are the public face of the other people she works with, but inversely does she share her tips with those in the kitchen (not trying to be funny, just genuinely curious)

No - I wondered that. They keep tips they're given. Presume the kitchen staff don't get any (possibly get paid more?). When she's on the front desk she gets no tips - similarly behind the bar gets very little in comparison. So she likes the waitressing best.

[Ketchup]

https://www.gov.uk/tips-at-work/tips-and-tax although not sure how honest I would be in declaring if I am on minimum a wage

When I was young, I had numerous part time jobs in the restaurant industry, I never once delared my tips (and have no recollection of anyone else doing it). But it causes all sorts of issues, my friends girfiend works at a chain of seafood restaurants, they struggle to find the best waitresses because the tips are pooled and paid as part of their salary which is subject to tax.

[MyUserName]

I normally tip in restaurants. I left a 5p tip once for a waitress who's service had been so bad it eroded even my, almost infinite, patience.

I got told by a friend who used to work as a driver in dominos that they made a note of who was the best tipper and there was always a rush to be the one to deliver to that address, the side effect being you got your pizza more quickly. Hence I tip fast food drivers too.

[doodab]

Never thought about it like that, they are the public face of the other people she works with, but inversely does she share her tips with those in the kitchen (not trying to be funny, just genuinely curious)

Often they go into a pot and are shared out.

[SimonMac]

I always tip well, but the problem i have with it is that it is effectively tax-free income.

https://www.gov.uk/tips-at-work/tips-and-tax although not sure how honest I would be in declaring if I am on minimum a wage

[SimonMac]

Yep - that's the problem. Meal comes out late/cold/burnt = no tip.

Agree that they ought to pay more, but they don't. And I guess if tipping was outlawed, they still wouldn't.

Never thought about it like that, they are the public face of the other people she works with, but inversely does she share her tips with those in the kitchen (not trying to be funny, just genuinely curious)

[Ketchup]

I always tip well, but the problem i have with it is that it is effectively tax-free income.

[mudskipper]

Let's hope they tip for service rather than quality of food.

Yep - that's the problem. Meal comes out late/cold/burnt = no tip.

Agree that they ought to pay more, but they don't. And I guess if tipping was outlawed, they still wouldn't.

[SimonMac]

Child #2 has just got summer job in local harvester. As she's 20, min wage is < £5 an hour, so tips are pretty important for topping it up.

And if she give good service she should be rewarded, but I object to paying her a living wage when her boss won't, either that or just wear a tight top

[TheFaQQer]

Child #2 has just got summer job in local harvester. As she's 20, min wage is < £5 an hour, so tips are pretty important for topping it up.

Let's hope they tip for service rather than quality of food.