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[Old Hack]

So just to get this straight, the warming up of the Gulf Stream is leading to colder temps.

Oh, and you obviously didn't take the time to read the article, for the gulfstream, at it's warmest, if in north eastern USA, and it's here that this article is based on, not over in the UK. Our weather pattern will just be a by product.

[Old Hack]

So just to get this straight, the warming up of the Gulf Stream is leading to colder temps.

You see, this is where your stupidity is really coming to the fore.

Now, what happens when warm water meets ice?

Now what would happen to that warmer water, if you added colder water to it?

So, let's ramp the temp up 5 degrees. Would this happen quicker, or slower?

The gulf stream will simply drift more southerly, as the body of water it's child currents drift into, gets colder, which will lower the temp of the sea, forcing the gulf stream and it's children, lower, and cooler into to warmer areas. This leads to wetter, colder weather here.

The part you are getting confused with, is that you think the gulfstream dissipates when it hits this colder water. It doesn't, it shifts, which is why we would get weather change.

Is it really that tricky to understand?

The waters in the Mid Atlantic, on Monday, were reported as 3 degrees down on average temps. And look, hey, wetter weather, colder weather. Coincidence? Maybe. Sign of the future? Maybe. I don't know, as I am not a climatologist, nor meteorologist but I do know logic and the forcing of the Gulfstream south, something we have, for generations, relied on for our temperate climate, seems to indicate our climate will change too.

[BlasterBates]

Again, Fixed that for you.

It, once again, isn't the gulf stream, it is a different current. It is even named something different for the extremely thick.

In 2012 Changes in temp of Gulf stream could release tonnes of methane, etc

So just to get this straight, the warming up of the Gulf Stream is leading to colder temps.

[Old Hack]

But it´s the main branch.

The Gulf Stream - An Overview of the Gulf Stream Current in the Atlantic Ocean

the Gulf Stream is its most powerful (at about 150 Sverdrups), forms large meanders, and splits into several different currents, the largest of which is the North Atlantic Current.

The North Atlantic Current then flows further north and feeds the Norwegian Current and moves the relatively warm water along the west coast of Europe.


In 2010 Scientists detect no change in the Gulf Stream

Again, Fixed that for you.

It, once again, isn't the gulf stream, it is a different current. It is even named something different for the extremely thick.

In 2012 Changes in temp of Gulf stream could release tonnes of methane, etc

A changing Gulf Stream has the potential to thaw and convert hundreds of gigatonnes of frozen methane hydrate trapped below the sea floor into methane gas, increasing the risk of slope failure and methane release. How the Gulf Stream changes with time and what effect these changes have on methane hydrate stability is unclear. Here, using seismic data combined with thermal models, we show that recent changes in intermediate-depth ocean temperature associated with the Gulf Stream are rapidly destabilizing methane hydrate along a broad swathe of the North American margin.

[BlasterBates]

FTFY HIHBIDI

No, it isn't, the gulfstream splits and comes back on itself under Greenland, and past West Africa. As it is a branch, they'd be stupid to call it the Gulfstream, as it isn't, it's the North Atlantic Branch.

But, as we've worked out, you are fairly stupid.

But it´s the main branch.

The Gulf Stream - An Overview of the Gulf Stream Current in the Atlantic Ocean

the Gulf Stream is its most powerful (at about 150 Sverdrups), forms large meanders, and splits into several currents, the largest of which is the North Atlantic Current.

The North Atlantic Current then flows further north and feeds the Norwegian Current and moves the relatively warm water along the west coast of Europe.


Scientists detect no change in the Gulf Stream

[Old Hack]

The North Atlantic Drift is the main branch of the Gulf stream after it splits and is often, by clearly stupid people, referred to as the Gulf stream.

Have to say sas. I enjoy your rather naive comments. It´s not your fault that you´re as thick as pigsh*t.

Have a nice day. Have you got a brolly for when you sit in the garden, because you´re going to need it for most of the summer.

FTFY HIHBIDI

No, it isn't, the gulfstream splits and comes back on itself under Greenland, and past West Africa. As it is a branch, they'd be stupid to call it the Gulfstream, as it isn't, it's the North Atlantic Branch.

But, as we've worked out, you are fairly stupid.

[BlasterBates]

And what makes you REALLY moronic is you think that this disproves AGW.

Honestly if I was making up a thick sockie on CUK I would hesitate to make it as totally imbecilic as you on the grounds that it wouldn't be credible.

You really have lost it haven´t you...

I was going to explain but then I realised it would be easier to get a stuffed toy to understand.

Your comments are always entertaining, keep them coming.

[sasguru]

Have a nice day. Have you got a brolly for when you sit in the garden, because you´re going to need it for most of the summer.

And what makes you REALLY moronic is you think that this disproves AGW.

Honestly if I was making up a thick sockie on CUK I would hesitate to make it as totally imbecilic as you on the grounds that it wouldn't be credible.

[BlasterBates]

No its called stupidity, despite your desperate effort to weasel out of it.

Face it you weren't put on earth to set it alight with your intellectual brilliance.

Now back to you dull, boring, poorly-paid permie job, there's a good fellow

The North Atlantic Drift is the main branch of the Gulf stream after it splits and is often referred to as the Gulf stream.

Have to say sas. I enjoy your rather naive comments. It´s not your fault that you´re as thick as pigsh*t.

Have a nice day. Have you got a brolly for when you sit in the garden, because you´re going to need it for most of the summer.

[sasguru]

It´s called sarcasm.

never mind....

No its called stupidity, despite your desperate effort to weasel out of it.

Face it you weren't put on earth to set it alight with your intellectual brilliance.

Now back to you dull, boring, poorly-paid permie job, there's a good fellow

[BlasterBates]

Obviously, the bit that goes past Britain isn't called the Gulfstream, it's called the north atlantic drift, iirc. The gulfstream goes elsewhere, if you look, it goes up and below greenland, and down to West Africa. Other currents take over from there.

If you're going to be dense, then of course you can carry on, but all this is, is a current of water, that moves swiftly; shifting it doesn't increase a body of water, it moves it, so why on earth would there be flooding in Europe, that's just a really, really stupid thing to say; the path of the current would move south, and it's that which drives the theory. saying thsi isn't possible, well, I'll leave it there.

It´s called sarcasm.

never mind....

[sasguru]

I used to think BB was a troll, but then I came to the conclusion that he's really, genuinely, very thick indeed. But you can tell that from his day job.

Just realised that even DP finds him thick.

[Old Hack]

Obviously South to North, we´re discussing the flow that goes past Britain. This Goes SW to NE from what I can see, past Britain, but this is a different current



There you go it "splurges" hot water up the Atlantic to the North Pole. None of these flows are going to "move South", either it works or it doesn`t.

...and if you are saying it has moved South perhaps you could post a link showing a graphic of how it managed to move South.

Without flooding the European continent it´s not clear to me how it could "move South".

Obviously, the bit that goes past Britain isn't called the Gulfstream, it's called the north atlantic drift, iirc. The gulfstream goes elsewhere, if you look, it goes up and below greenland, and down to West Africa. Other currents take over from there.

If you're going to be dense, then of course you can carry on, but all this is, is a current of water, that moves swiftly; shifting it doesn't increase a body of water, it moves it, so why on earth would there be flooding in Europe, that's just a really, really stupid thing to say; the path of the current would move south, and it's that which drives the theory. saying thsi isn't possible, well, I'll leave it there.

[BlasterBates]

HTH

It doesn't go north - south, far from it. That's crazy speak.

Obviously South to North, we´re discussing the flow that goes past Britain.



There you go it "splurges" hot water up the Atlantic to the North Pole. None of these flows are going to "move South", either it works or it doesn`t.

...and if you are saying it has moved South perhaps you could post a link showing a graphic of how it managed to move South.

Without flooding the European continent it´s not clear to me how it could "move South".

[Old Hack]

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