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I'm sure other editors do proper regex searching - I recently learned how to use the (weird) implementation in Visual Studio and it can be amazing useful on occasion.
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You got itOriginally posted by doodab View PostThe thing that make vim useful for me is the regexes, particularly search and replace using backreferences and the configurable folding. It may be possible to do that stuff to the same degree in some other editors (i know people rave about emacs) but not as easily, if at all, in any of the windows gui ones I have tried such as notepad++ or ultra edit. There are certain sorts of logfiles I deal with where the usual reaction from other folk when they see what it can do is 'can you show me how to do that'. To quote Arthur C Clarke it is "indistinguishable from magic".
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The thing that make vim useful for me is the regexes, particularly search and replace using backreferences and the configurable folding. It may be possible to do that stuff to the same degree in some other editors (i know people rave about emacs) but not as easily, if at all, in any of the windows gui ones I have tried such as notepad++ or ultra edit. There are certain sorts of logfiles I deal with where the usual reaction from other folk when they see what it can do is 'can you show me how to do that'. To quote Arthur C Clarke it is "indistinguishable from magic".Originally posted by Cliphead View PostI use Vi (well Vim which is Vi Improved), every day and a fine editor it is when life is spent in a console. Productive? Marginally faster than a GUI editor but no better really.
I sometimes switch to Joe for a bit of nostalgia cos it's mostly like WordStar which I used in DOS days and still remember all the commands.
There's no need for a GUI of any kind on a unix / linux server.
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I was always told it's that way cos you might need to boot single or boot cd where you have no dynamic libs and only the basic tools. Fair enough but in years and years I think i've only had to do that twice!Originally posted by Cliphead View PostI use Vi (well Vim which is Vi Improved), every day and a fine editor it is when life is spent in a console. Productive? Marginally faster than a GUI editor but no better really.
I sometimes switch to Joe for a bit of nostalgia cos it's mostly like WordStar which I used in DOS days and still remember all the commands.
There's no need for a GUI of any kind on a unix / linux server.
NEVER CHANGE ROOT'S SHELL was another, esp on Solaris, bash fans being the culprits, now you can do that on Solaris, and Redhat and all those fancy new fangled Unix-like OSes...
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I use Vi (well Vim which is Vi Improved), every day and a fine editor it is when life is spent in a console. Productive? Marginally faster than a GUI editor but no better really.
I sometimes switch to Joe for a bit of nostalgia cos it's mostly like WordStar which I used in DOS days and still remember all the commands.
There's no need for a GUI of any kind on a unix / linux server.
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Best editor?Originally posted by sasguru View Postvi. That takes me back - probably the best editor ever invented.
DEC EDT - the only editor with a keyboard condom.
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Just because it uses some archaic system of obscure keyboard shortcut commands doesn't make it the best ever.Originally posted by sasguru View Postvi. That takes me back - probably the best editor ever invented.
Infact I'd say that pretty much every text editor I've used since vi has been better
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Years ago I used to set vi up with a sticky bit so that once the servers were locked down for production, I could always gain root by shelling out of Vi
Lost count of how many sysadmins couldn't figure out how I still had root even after they changed the password
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Schadenfreude is...
Well he's done it, had to show him how to save it.
I'm certain he did it in notepad and right clicked it into putty, the signs were there.
These are AIX lpars, nowt much more than BOS plus ssh on so no fancy tools!
Actually just checked - someone's put bash on, sacrilege!
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