Reply to: The devil wears asda

[eek]

Surely you mean the devil from c&a.

[norrahe]

She's not permie.

Poor guy is probably insecure. You've pitched up and seem to be competent, and worse still, you're a woman!

Either:

Play the game and get him on side - make out like you think he's the bees knees and knows lots of stuff

Or:

Tell him to do one.


Depends how much you need the gig.

Insecure, paranoid, rude and not very bright. The gig seems to be a justification for his role, I'm not doing anything remotely related to my skills, he seems to want someone senior doing a very junior role.

I leave him to it, and avoid him if at all possible. He seems to think there's a lot more involved in my role, but I'm supposedly backing him up, and his role involves feck all as well.

I'm looking for a new gig, but the cloggy market is carp, if you're not fluent in cloggy ( believe me I'm getting a hell of a lot of practice in atm). I have a good personal warchest, but the company warchest isn't brilliant ( cloggy limiteds do not work the same way as UK, you have to pay a proper salary and appropriate taxes, you cannot take a salary break, if I do I lose my expat discount tax ruling, which I do not want to).

Looks like I'll put my head down and try not to kill anyone until summat comes up.

[mudskipper]

Could be "constructive dismissal" behaviour i.e. deliberately making it impossible to do your job.
In my 20 years in various so called blue-chips I've seen that often enough.
In fact when it comes to management it's usually that or sheer incomepetence.

She's not permie.

Poor guy is probably insecure. You've pitched up and seem to be competent, and worse still, you're a woman!

Either:

Play the game and get him on side - make out like you think he's the bees knees and knows lots of stuff

Or:

Tell him to do one.


Depends how much you need the gig.

[MaryPoppins]

Am trying to adjust accordingly but difficult when you don't know what to expect. I can brace myself for meetings, but when they come to your desk unexpectedly or grab you in the corridor you can't prep for that.

Coupled with the fact this person is not the brightest spark and paranoid to book and has pissed off several members of senior staff.

It does sound difficult. Like SAS says though, I'd probably stick it out a bit longer if he's known to be a twat.

Good luck nor

[lukemg]

Second that if nobber wasn't involved in hiring, had this a few times. If they have hired you, often get more leeway as they want to justify their decision. If imposed on them it can be a problem, have to convince from scratch, might have totally diff ideas about what's needed.
Got hired for one job, walked off another one (yeah I know, just too good to turn down). I get there and hiring chap is no longer there, new chap comes in first day and says - I don't know what you are doing here, I wouldn't have hired you and I should have been consulted about it happening.
I said - 'I hope I can change that opinion' and I did see out the contract but the relationship with nob features did not improve from this point but at least I knew from day one and could make sure I managed him accordingly.
I also deliberately stayed till the bitter end even though the 2 people I was covering came back from mat. leave early. I can be very stubborn and they were paying a lot of money !

[norrahe]

How dare you come on a public forum and talk about me. See me in my office in 30 minutes and bring the whole sprint plan and deliverables for that project I haven't told you about yet!

Ah.
No.
Ted.

[MarillionFan]

Am trying to adjust accordingly but difficult when you don't know what to expect. I can brace myself for meetings, but when they come to your desk unexpectedly or grab you in the corridor you can't prep for that.

Coupled with the fact this person is not the brightest spark and paranoid to book and has pissed off several members of senior staff.

How dare you come on a public forum and talk about me. See me in my office in 30 minutes and bring the whole sprint plan and deliverables for that project I haven't told you about yet!

[SandyD]

Could be "constructive dismissal" behaviour i.e. deliberately making it impossible to do your job.
In my 20 years in various so called blue-chips I've seen that often enough.
.

Agree.

[original PM]

or get some of the 'boys' to take him outside and have a quiet 'word' like?

[sasguru]

Could be "constructive dismissal" behaviour i.e. deliberately making it impossible to do your job.
In my 20 years in various so called blue-chips I've seen that often enough.
In fact when it comes to management it's usually that or sheer incomepetence.

[SandyD]

And you don't think I ask what these ate about or what I need to bring.

And when I do bring what's requested, he's changed his mind.

As for meetings, he's mostly in the same ones as me.

There's no winning. I think I need to become psychic.

If you are very unhappy there and don't think you can work with him, then you have one option, find another contract, life is too short, seriously.

[norrahe]

1- Stop writing an summary emails after you meet with him, he obviously doesn't want these things in writing
2- If you are asked to schedule a meeting, ask him what will it be about, if he has so many meetings it could be that he forgot or whatever, but in any case insist on a meeting reason/agenda before scheduling it
3- Same as above if schedule any meeting insist on knowing what handouts or paper you need to bring to that meeting

And you don't think I ask what these ate about or what I need to bring.

And when I do bring what's requested, he's changed his mind.

As for meetings, he's mostly in the same ones as me.

There's no winning. I think I need to become psychic.

[amcdonald]

LOL. Remember my Mrs went to some dodgy clinic for diet pills. One of the side effects was severe mood swings...

She has been on some crazy Lighter Life Total diet, till her doctor told her stop

[SandyD]

1- Stop writing an summary emails after you meet with him, he obviously doesn't want these things in writing
2- If you are asked to schedule a meeting, ask him what will it be about, if he has so many meetings it could be that he forgot or whatever, but in any case insist on a meeting reason/agenda before scheduling it
3- Same as above if schedule any meeting insist on knowing what handouts or paper you need to bring to that meeting

[FiveTimes]

Either he's just scatty and, being aware of his shortcomings, defensive.

Or he's plain psychotic, after years of puffing pot in the evenings and weekends.

Or, if he wasn't at your interview(s), perhaps he feels you were imposed on him and his apparent hostility and obstructiveness is the result. By rights it should make no difference and someone should be grateful for any competent help they can get. But in the permie world, with its political BS and machinations, people often feel disgruntled if decisions affecting them are made on their behalf, and one example is being assigned some contractor they were not involved in hiring.

Or maybe it's something else entirely

Or maybe he has deep feelings for Nor and doesnt want it to spill out at work ?