Reply to: Hate against contractors

[Helios]

Had this attitude from perm managers, asking me how the ir35 is going, and most of them earned more than me this year.
All I can say is wank*rs

[Mailman]

No, instead, they like me because I am a cheaper permie.

Fecken hell, you a permie now!

Mailman

[bobsmithldn]

That is so pitiful of so many permies little scale managers that they hate contractors. I have to hear this all the time. No contractors, no contractors.... blah, blah, no loyalty, no commitment, no involvment, and so many other crap; can't they just realise that they are simply jealous because of their peanuts paying jobs and they can't find a decent paid contract, instead of justifying their failure that contractors aren't the right choice? They just look like miserable tw@ts.

Everyday is a push towards the edge....

Francko, sort yourself out mate (he says where 90% of the IT bods are 'tractors) ...

[sasguru]

That's because they're spineless individuals. They know that they can't be blamed if they paid for the XXXXX Major IT Bullcr@p Consultancy. They wouldn't be able to spot a good contractor as otherwise this means that they would be just as good, and therefore they would be contractors too.

Add to that that each permie added is an increase of the political power of their empire and the result is all clear now.

Typical blinkered techie. No conception of the reality of achieving things in complex organisations. Moaning because his skills have been commoditised.
Wake up and smell the coffee. If you are a pure-play averagely good techie the only places you will be able to work soon will be the "XXXXX Major IT Bullcr@p Consultancy."
Either gain more specialised business skills, become a contractor (where you sell your commoditised IT skill) or be a slave for the big XXXXX Major IT Bullcr@p Consultancy.

[Francko]

This seems to be very much a British disease based class structure. And not just in IT. Many firms will not pay good money for a contractor but they are very happy to pay ten times the amount to a large consultancy or firm to do job that requires one worker being paid a pittance. The same goes for scum permies, they hate to see contractors get good money but they are quite happy to see an outside consultancy being paid £2,000 a day in exchange for an on site worker getting £16 an hour.

That's because they're spineless individuals. They know that they can't be blamed if they paid for the XXXXX Major IT Bullcr@p Consultancy. They wouldn't be able to spot a good contractor as otherwise this means that they would be just as good, and therefore they would be contractors too.

Add to that that each permie added is an increase of the political power of their empire and the result is all clear now.

[Clog II The Avenger]

This seems to be very much a British disease based class structure. And not just in IT. Many firms will not pay good money for a contractor but they are very happy to pay ten times the amount to a large consultancy or firm to do job that requires one worker being paid a pittance. The same goes for scum permies, they hate to see contractors get good money but they are quite happy to see an outside consultancy being paid £2,000 a day in exchange for an on site worker getting £16 an hour.

[MarillionFan]

Francko I think you need www.permieuk.com

[sasguru]

Act. Just waiting for a contract that pays more than my permie (adapted with the risk factor, of course).

Good. Case closed. Next ....

[Francko]

Quit moaning. 2 choices - act or submit.

Act. Just waiting for a contract that pays more than my permie (adapted with the risk factor, of course).

[sasguru]

Major finance consultancy/auditing. They pay well for permies. But yet always a permie.

Quit moaning. 2 choices - act or submit.

[Cyber Controller]

If you pay peanuts Francko, then you get monkeys.

If you give monkeys more peanuts it doesn't turn them into computer programmers.

[Francko]

Where do you work Francko ?

Is this a bank ? IT "Consultancy"...?

Major finance consultancy/auditing. They pay well for permies. But yet always a permie.

[BlasterBates]

Where do you work Francko ?

Is this a bank ? IT "Consultancy"...?

[Churchill]

How do you think we agents feel?

Squishy.

[Francko]

How do you think we agents feel?

Come on dodgy, do something about it. That's one of the few things we both agree on.