Reply to: closing power stations but promoting electric cars?

[EternalOptimist]

Fan bloody tastic
I just checked the wind contribution to the grid.

If you muliplied it by 4, then rounded it to the nearest whole number it would be 0%

and we are heading for power cuts. great

[EternalOptimist]

Sounds comical with those numbers, but fair play to them - One must start somewhere.

Back in 1890 or whenever, no doubt people were scoffing the same about these new fangled petroleum stations

back in 1890, people said 'hey that looks blooming great. I'll pay for some of that'

a hundred years later, the greens said 'hey that looks blooming great. You'll pay for some of that'

[EternalOptimist]

This was mentioned on R4 this morning, the trouble is transporting it across the Atlantic which bumps the price up considerably.

If the curve keeps track wind will be cheap sometime in the distant future.

What I was suggesting is that we would become self sufficient, if we followed the American model.

There seems to be no end to the new finds of oil and gas, Canada alone has double the amount that Saudi Arabia ever had.
The oil age will end. But the stone age didnt end because we ran out of stone

[gingerjedi]

no, the Russian gas producers are in trouble because of Shale. The Americans have become the worlds largest gas producer in the last few years, and we have loads of it as well.

The green hysteria is proving to be just that- hysteria

This was mentioned on R4 this morning, the trouble is transporting it across the Atlantic which bumps the price up considerably.

If the curve keeps track wind will be cheap sometime in the distant future.

[minestrone]

The Scots govt have decided to put a charging point every fifty miles. There are 60 privately owned electric vehicles in Scotland

I think the cost is £64,000 per car.

I think there are quite a few more than that to be honest. There is a charging point at the end of the street and you can recharge for free, seen one car use it in about 6 months.

[Uncle Albert]

Good idea. Can they build a Bose stereo, heated seats and a heater unit into one of these?

Will this do?
Hummer Turned Into a Horse Cart

[OwlHoot]

The Scots govt have decided to put a charging point every fifty miles. There are 60 privately owned electric vehicles in Scotland

Sounds comical with those numbers, but fair play to them - One must start somewhere.

Back in 1890 or whenever, no doubt people were scoffing the same about these new fangled petroleum stations

[EternalOptimist]

The Scots govt have decided to put a charging point every fifty miles. There are 60 privately owned electric vehicles in Scotland

[Coalman]

Re: closing power stations but promoting electric cars?

In the short term we are dependent on Russian gas, but that is changing with LNG from other sources. We will always be dependent on other countries for our gas unless we reduce usage.

Energy efficiency is the way forward, both domestic and industrial.

We will also see a lot more smaller non - conventional power and CHP plants springing up. Unfortunately a lot of the technology for this has to be brought in.

[EternalOptimist]

Its a screw up, probably by the builder.

I like the idea of spending sensible amounts to save energy, it's common sense.

But the reason we are going to have these problems with our power supplies is because of the stupidity of 'de-carbonisation'


as if insulating every single home in Britain with six layers would save a single molecule of carbon dioxide.

[EternalOptimist]

Won't the gas to run them be piped from Russia?

So the UK's energy policy for at least the next 30 years depends almost entirely on maintaining a friendly, cooperative relationship with Russia throughout that time and all the countries in between?

no, the Russian gas producers are in trouble because of Shale. The Americans have become the worlds largest gas producer in the last few years, and we have loads of it as well.

The green hysteria is proving to be just that- hysteria

[OwlHoot]

Prices will be going up by a lot more to fund new power stations, although quite a few new gas ones have been built to in the last few years.

Won't the gas to run them be piped from Russia?

So the UK's energy policy for at least the next 30 years depends almost entirely on maintaining a friendly, cooperative relationship with Russia throughout that time and all the countries in between?

[gingerjedi]

Couldn't you use all the Romanians and Bulgarians that will be there next year to do that?

But then we're left with the Greggs generation still sat on on their backsides watching TV and boiling kettles.

We could lag our lofts with Romanians.

[darmstadt]

What about an exercise bike farm? All we need is a few million overweight people with nothing better to do, win win.

Any idea where we could find them?

Couldn't you use all the Romanians and Bulgarians that will be there next year to do that?

[gingerjedi]

What about an exercise bike farm? All we need is a few million overweight people with nothing better to do, win win.

Any idea where we could find them?