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[Mich the Tester]

...a few slaps were dished out.

By the local slappers?

[minestrone]

The Romanians have folk walking the streets in the morning round my way, looking out for skips and any bins that have been left out, I see them maybe twice a week as I walk down to the station.

I know an area not far from me organised a 'welcoming committee' for them after they were seen going up lanes and looking in shed windows, a few slaps were dished out.

[vetran]

I think it could be 68k in Britain but 28k arrests in London alone.

you are right

[sasguru]

oh so the rate of arrests for Romanians is 27,725/68,000 so 0.40772 arrests per person legally here.

Compare that to 1,360,451/62,641,000 = 0.021718

So Romanians are ~20 times more likely to commit a crime than the general populace?

Glad to see you're finally using the denominators to get a rate.
It certainly looks like Romanians are disproportionately criminal.
The next step to assess whether this is true or not is to figure out if these numbers are, in fact, accurate.
Where are you getting the figures from?

[DodgyAgent]

The government don't really help themselves by dramatically reducing the number of police and border control personnel at this present time. Surely these figures will now go up and they only have themselves to blame...Or will they outsource it?

The UK border agency is utterly useless no matter how much money you chuck at it. Just like every other public sector function

[Mich the Tester]

The government don't really help themselves by dramatically reducing the number of police and border control personnel at this present time. Surely these figures will now go up and they only have themselves to blame...Or will they outsource it?

Yes, and they have a plan to outsource the secret services too. It's called Bob's your U.N.C.L.E.

[darmstadt]

The government don't really help themselves by dramatically reducing the number of police and border control personnel at this present time. Surely these figures will now go up and they only have themselves to blame...Or will they outsource it?

[DodgyAgent]

I am buying a property in Romania it is a great place to live as crime has fallen dramatically there

[minestrone]

oh so the rate of arrests for Romanians is 27,725/68,000 so 0.40772 arrests per person legally here.

Compare that to 1,360,451/62,641,000 = 0.021718

So Romanians are ~20 times more likely to commit a crime than the general populace?

I think it could be 68k in Britain but 28k arrests in London alone.

[vetran]

oh so the rate of arrests for Romanians is 27,725/68,000 so 0.40772 arrests per person legally here.

Compare that to 1,360,451/62,641,000 = 0.021718

So Romanians are ~20 times more likely to commit a crime than the general populace?

[DodgyAgent]

Try this lot instead; Securitate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Real bastards.

Thanks Mitch

Usual "drink" in it for you

[Mich the Tester]

The problem is so bad Scotland Yard has set up Operation Nexus to tackle the issue. It is bidding for EU funding to recruit overseas investigators.

I am on it. I have 6 ex Stasi candidates ready to go - just as soon as they are released

Try this lot instead; Securitate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Real bastards.

[DodgyAgent]

The problem is so bad Scotland Yard has set up Operation Nexus to tackle the issue. It is bidding for EU funding to recruit overseas investigators.

I am on it. I have 6 ex Stasi candidates ready to go - just as soon as they are released

[minestrone]

How Romanian criminals terrorise our streets | UK | News | Daily Express

Shock figures show that the Metropolitan Police made 27,725 arrests over the past five years for offences including rape and murder. This is despite just 68,000 Romanians living here at present – a figure set to soar when Britain has to open its borders next January under an EU directive.

The crime statistics undermine reassurances from Romanian officials that the UK has nothing to fear from the lowering of border controls.

Tory MP Priti Patel said: “These figures show why, with 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians gaining unrestricted access to the UK, more needs to be done to control immigration and to safeguard the British public from foreign criminals.

“The message must be that if you commit a crime you will be deported without hesitation.”

Responding to a Freedom of Information request, the Met Police revealed that Romanians are second only to Polish migrants for arrests since 2008.

However, although Poles topped the list with almost 35,000 arrests, there are almost 600,000 of them living in the UK.

Curbs on Romanians and Bulgarians coming to Britain without jobs have been in place since the two former Eastern bloc countries joined the European Union in 2007.

But these restrictions must be lifted at the end of this year under EU law.

Prime Minister David Cameron has refused to give any estimate of the numbers expected to arrive here, but campaign group MigrationWatch has put the figure at 50,000 a year for five years.

Its chief, Sir Andrew Green, said yesterday: “It is a matter of real concern that there should be such a substantial degree of criminality among those Romanians who have already come to Britain despite the treaty limitations on their right to work.”

Euro MP Gerard Batten said: “This is what an open-door immigration policy delivers. Not just the hardworking and decent migrants we might want, but a complete inability to protect ourselves from foreign criminals.

“If this many criminals have arrived already what will it be like when the final restrictions are removed? The Government should take action to control immigration and tell the EU where to get off.

“If our own Government cannot protect its own people against the world’s criminals what use is it?”

Tory MP Priti Patel said more needs to be done to control immigration

It is a matter of real concern that there should be such a substantial degree of criminality among those Romanians who have already come to Britain despite the treaty limitations on their right to work

MigrationWatch chief Sir Andrew Green

The Met’s figures show the 27,725 arrests of *Romanian suspects were in connection with 142 rapes, 10 murders, 666 sex crimes, 303 robberies, 1,370 burglaries and 2,902 offences of violence.

The 34,905 arrests in London among Polish citizens in London were for suspected involvement in 84 murders, 129 rapes, 866 sex assaults, 480 robberies, 2,094 burglaries and nearly 7,500 violent crimes.

Lithuania was in third place on the list with more than 18,500 arrests, followed by Nigeria on 15,600, India with 15,200 and Jamaica with 14,072.

Data recently showed the number of Romanians in UK jails had grown by nearly 40 per cent from 454 in September 2011 to 624 last year.

British taxpayers are already paying more than £100million a year to fund an estimated 2,400 Eastern Europeans currently in our jails, at a rate of £42,000 per prisoner.

Fraudsters from Romania, a former hardline Communist state, are responsible for 92 per cent of all crime at cashpoints in Britain, according to police.

In one of the most notorious cases, criminal Gheorge Banu stole £643,000 from customers accounts after obtaining their security details.

The Met Police in London deal with around half of all crime committed in Britain by foreign citizens.

The problem is so bad Scotland Yard has set up Operation Nexus to tackle the issue. It is bidding for EU funding to recruit overseas investigators.

The top 10 countries for crime suspects in the UK are: Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Nigeria, India, Jamaica, Ireland, Somalia, Portugal and Pakistan.

[Flashman]

Ah the 70s. That was a golden era if there ever was one, before free trade, immigration and EU interference ruined our economy and destroyed our living standards.

The golden era of race riots and the National Front?

Thatcher brought in immigration controls and support for the NF collapsed.

Dave Cameron opens the floodgates in return for.......Tesco supermarkets in India .The man's a genuis!