Reply to: Does anyone here invest in the stock market?

[sirja]

To be honest, investing is like dieting, everyone has there one strategy to beat everyone else, but it comes down to common sense, do your homework yourself and don't get too cocky

I agree. Try and use and strategy that best fits your personality. I am a short timer who likes to get in and out fast. Much more a trader than an investor so a lot of the way I trade would not work for a buy to hold long term investor and vice versa. There is no 100% , works for all time frames approach

[SimonMac]

You short termists will never get rich with your febrile approach to investing.

Hate to agree with assguru but as I said I am looking 10 years plus, sort term drops will balance out.

BATS is up 11%
CSR is up 33%
DGE is up 11%
LLOY is up 14%

GSK, RIO and VOD are all up between 5 and 9% so I can sit and not panic that AV and BBY are down 7% and 6% respectively.

I bought Aviva at 338p, and thought it was a good long term investment, so at 315p it means I can buy more.

[d000hg]

But it was fairly obvious there market dominance was diminishing, they had taken their focus to the courtrooms rather than to innovation, and the iPhone 5 is not revolutionary.

So what? That would lead to prices stagnating or dipping, not halving in a week.

[Ketchup]

They went up 25% after I bought them... then I blinked and they'd collapsed 50%! They could've taken a hammering and I'd have got out at no loss, you don't expect a company like that who make something tangible to totally crash that quickly.

But it was fairly obvious there market dominance was diminishing, they had taken their focus to the courtrooms rather than to innovation, and the iPhone 5 is not revolutionary.

Apple has a following who will blindly buy what they make as a fashion accessory, they have also done well to tie users to Apple by cloud storage, the apps they have purchased, and i think they will keep the majority of these customers. They will have to do something pretty revolutionary to get back their market dominance as the "optimun" for phones has now been identified, they are all 3-5 inches and rectangular touchscreens and can't see anyway that this can be revolutionised. It is like televisons, people experimented with sizes and dimensions, and now they are all a standard shape you just choose what size you buy.

[d000hg]

You did the usual thing and invest when the stock had already gone up 1000% and was mega over bought.

They went up 25% after I bought them... then I blinked and they'd collapsed 50%! They could've taken a hammering and I'd have got out at no loss, you don't expect a company like that who make something tangible to totally crash that quickly.

[lukemg]

It's true Apple were hitting the heights but P/E still looks reasonable plus got a massive cash pile - which is under pressure to be released as Divi's, which they have started paying but very little at the moment.

I just think the growth model relies on a non-stop procession of new kit which blows the rest out of the water. This is not sustainable even after a brilliant run of doing this and the rest have caught up.
BUT - they can still make serious coin from current products and people will pay a premium = bigger profit margins.

Prefer the Vanguard US tracker I am drip feeding, does help that I started it just as this bull run began.....

[DimPrawn]

As time goes on, I'm increasingly happy how little I had lying about when I decided to invest in Apple.

You did the usual thing and invest when the stock had already gone up 1000% and was mega over bought.

[DimPrawn]

You short termists will never get rich with your febrile approach to investing.

Where's the maniacal laughter?

[d000hg]

As time goes on, I'm increasingly happy how little I had lying about when I decided to invest in Apple.

[sasguru]

You short termists will never get rich with your febrile approach to investing.

[DimPrawn]

+1

Aviva, Rio Tinto, Vodafone, Glaxo, Diageo, all long term solid investments paying around 5% dividends each year, add in the value gains too and you can't lose in the long term*

I have a few speculative punts, bought Lloyds at 33p a share, now sitting ~53p a share, no dividends yet but will start to eventually pay when its paid off HMG

*10 years +

Well your Aviva is down 12% in one day and they have slashed the dividend.

https://www.google.co.uk/finance?client=ob&q=LON:AV

[SimonMac]

To be honest, investing is like dieting, everyone has there one strategy to beat everyone else, but it comes down to common sense, do your homework yourself and don't get too cocky

[badger7579]

The only book on investing you'll ever need.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intelligent-...271781-8652824

[lukemg]

YOU CANT TIME THE MARKET. No-one can do it consistently and dont fool yourself if you get one call right.
Trust me - get 'a random walk down wall street' he gives all the star fund managers, market timers, Technical Analysis wonks etc a kicking and then shows you how to do it.
He does admit that the main problem is that his approach is boring and doesn't need maintenance, which can be very addictive when you get started.
Thats why I am blending approaches.

[SimonMac]

Everything would suggest you are right, but unless you are a short term investor looking for quick gains you'd be daft to panic sell, if you are an income investor it makes difference what the share price is as you will always baseline your dividend yield against the purchase price rather than the sell price you would get now for a share.