Reply to: A question for those who have a religious faith

[mudskipper]

As soon as you have chemicals which can replicate then you have the possibility for run away evolution. It would take a finite number of attempts in nature for that process to randomly start itself.

But where do those chemicals come from? I struggle with the idea of 'infinite'!

[hyperD]

We're starring in our very own Truman Show. Or it feels like it for me. Every time I leave the house by car or bike, there's a bunch of fecking standins that "mysteriously" appear out of their driveways and hold me up on my way to work.

Every day.

Bastards.

[Spacecadet]

Yep, but what started it all off?

Teleological argument - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As soon as you have chemicals which can replicate then you have the possibility for run away evolution. It would take a finite number of attempts in nature for that process to randomly start itself.

[mudskipper]

You think so?
I thought that the beauty of evolution was the fact that it is so simple that almost by definition evolution has to exist, like gravity or Boyle's law.

Yep, but what started it all off?

Teleological argument - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Spacecadet]

It's one thing I never understood about the whole evolution vs creationism argument. Evolution is a pretty amazing concept, it could be reasonably argued that evolution is the best proof that there is some kind of hyper intelligence behind it all , yet that doesn't seem to have occurred to the creationists. Perhaps they are all just inbred hicks.

You think so?
I thought that the beauty of evolution was the fact that it is so simple that almost by definition evolution has to exist, like gravity or Boyle's law.

[VectraMan]

Re: A question for those who have a religious faith

It's one thing I never understood about the whole evolution vs creationism argument. Evolution is a pretty amazing concept, it could be reasonably argued that evolution is the best proof that there is some kind of hyper intelligence behind it all , yet that doesn't seem to have occurred to the creationists. Perhaps they are all just inbred hicks.

[Spacecadet]

Oops, sorry. I hope you get the jist though. Not being confrontational just curious.

Well like I implied I don't think the two are mutually exclusive, however for the literal creationism in the biblical sense I would heavily favour evolution.
I'm not 100% against it for religious reasons, I just have an inability to completely discount any possible reality (Probably a side effect from reading way too much science fiction from the age of seven upwards)

[Cliphead]

Until the 25 year old malt kicks in

Up yours cnt.

Just being consistent

[suityou01]

Oops, sorry. I hope you get the jist though. Not being confrontational just curious.

Until the 25 year old malt kicks in

[Cliphead]

It's your badly worded question I need the clarification on!

Oops, sorry. I hope you get the jist though. Not being confrontational just curious.

[Spacecadet]

Rattle a creationsist's cage not mine if you want clarification.

It's your badly worded question I need the clarification on!

[Cliphead]

You'll have to define creationism better. God could have "created" the conditions out of which a life bearing universe could emerge

Rattle a creationsist's cage not mine if you want clarification.

[Cliphead]

They just make it up as they go along i think.

Ah, just like their foreign policy and diplomacy?

[Spacecadet]

You'll have to define creationism better. God could have "created" the conditions out of which a life bearing universe could emerge

[Robinho]

They just make it up as they go along i think.