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Previously on "Green Deal 'in tatters' as no-one registers"

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    Scotland have a big asset in its natural beauty - the mountains, the glens, the forests, the lochs, the wilderness, the wildlife. Windmills all over the place will spoil that.
    The Whitlee wind farm is an absolute abomination on the landscape, 55 square kilometres this thing takes up...

    "Europe’s largest wind farm at Whitelee is also a good example of Siemens’ ability to combine a high degree of cost effective standardization with efforts to accommodate individual site-specific and customer-specific requirements. "

    ...probably lifted from the sales pitch they gave the Nazis.

    Ironically Hess landed a few miles away on what was thought to be a peace mission, maybe he had a dossier on what Siemens was going to do with Eaglesham after the war and that was why he got stuck in Spandau.

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  • centurian
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    Scotland have a big asset in its natural beauty - the mountains, the glens, the forests, the lochs, the wilderness, the wildlife. Windmills all over the place will spoil that.
    Which isn't a problem at the moment. They just drop hints to half the people on one side of the argument they will do one thing, and then hints to the other half that they will do the opposite.

    The real problem starts when all those people actually vote you in...

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Aye, they will keep on at that reactor for another 20 years at least.

    With the SNP hell bent on wind power they should drop the rods and see how the west coast of Scotland fares without the power it provides for just one day. We have Europe's biggest wind farm up the road and at its peak can only provide about a fith of what Hunterston can give at a flick of a switch. "But power is an industry" we are being told, "it makes jobs and nuclear does not make jobs", "fantasy fairy tale wind turbines make jobs" and with that makes me pay more and industry pay more and "companies that use power want to come to Scotland because it will be a green energy source" we are told. Aye right.

    Arghh, that was my sunday rant.

    Feckin hate the SNP.
    Scotland have a big asset in its natural beauty - the mountains, the glens, the forests, the lochs, the wilderness, the wildlife. Windmills all over the place will spoil that.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    WHS, but perhaps it won't be ..

    Same Old Plant, New Megawatts
    Aye, they will keep on at that reactor for another 20 years at least.

    With the SNP hell bent on wind power they should drop the rods and see how the west coast of Scotland fares without the power it provides for just one day. We have Europe's biggest wind farm up the road and at its peak can only provide about a fith of what Hunterston can give at a flick of a switch. "But power is an industry" we are being told, "it makes jobs and nuclear does not make jobs", "fantasy fairy tale wind turbines make jobs" and with that makes me pay more and industry pay more and "companies that use power want to come to Scotland because it will be a green energy source" we are told. Aye right.

    Arghh, that was my sunday rant.

    Feckin hate the SNP.

    I think it is time for some

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    For a newer, more efficient boiler.
    Unless you live in a huge mansion, you can't spend £10K on a boiler.

    I had the best gas combi bioler money can buy fitted last year, the Vaillant EcoTEC Plus 837, and that came to only about £5K for parts and labour.

    It's so quiet and efficient, it could probably run a bath full of molten iron and barely break sweat.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    ...

    I love nuclear power.



    That little baby has kept me posting for years and will be decommissioned in 3 years time.
    WHS, but perhaps it won't be ..

    Same Old Plant, New Megawatts

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  • minestrone
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    It is pretty cold up here just now, no wind to turn a turbine and the most I could expect to get from Ra, the Sun god would be a phone charge after forking out 50 grand carpeting the street with solar panels.

    I love nuclear power.




    That little baby has kept me posting for years and will be decommissioned in 3 years time.

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  • EternalOptimist
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    Originally posted by MadDawg View Post
    I had my cavity walls done (average size 4 bed detached) for £75 under one of the government subsidy schemes. I believe British Gas will do their customers for free. I think you can get your loft done for a similar price. Why the hell would you need to borrow £10,000 to do it?
    free ???

    British gas are kindly insulationg YOUR home and asking ME to pay


    blooming subsidies

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  • EternalOptimist
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    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    Richard Black left the BBC at the end of August, which has meant real science can finally get a look in on the Science Pages
    Richard Black was well known for being able to spin anything into a GW scare story, but its actually a fellow called Harrabin who was pulling the strings, and he is still there.
    It was Harrabin who organised that famous seminar where the BBC's impartiality was ditched in a policy change that apparently flies in the face of the charter.



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  • malvolio
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    The Green Deal website hasn't launched yet, it's due later this month, so that could have something to do with why nobody's registered with it yet.

    Incidentally my current client is hosting it...

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  • centurian
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    That's because it's a crap scheme. 25 years of higher energy bills, which also has to be passed on to any new buyer of your house, so will make your house harder to sell.

    You're better off just borrowing the cash and making the improvement, which can probably be done for less than under the scheme anyway after everyone else has added on their respective markups etc.

    Plus in the current climate, after the misselling scandals of PPI, IR swaps etc. people just don't trust any form of finance provder - justifyably so...

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  • Spacecadet
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    Originally posted by MadDawg View Post
    I had my cavity walls done (average size 4 bed detached) for £75 under one of the government subsidy schemes. I believe British Gas will do their customers for free. I think you can get your loft done for a similar price. Why the hell would you need to borrow £10,000 to do it?
    For a newer, more efficient boiler.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by MadDawg View Post
    I had my cavity walls done (average size 4 bed detached) for £75 under one of the government subsidy schemes. I believe British Gas will do their customers for free. I think you can get your loft done for a similar price. Why the hell would you need to borrow £10,000 to do it?
    I suppose you could spend that on solar panels, especially after the Government withdrew or greatly reduced the subsidy for those (I think).

    But you'd be a mug, because in 5 or 10 years solar panels will very likely be far cheaper and more efficient than they are today.

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  • MadDawg
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    I had my cavity walls done (average size 4 bed detached) for £75 under one of the government subsidy schemes. I believe British Gas will do their customers for free. I think you can get your loft done for a similar price. Why the hell would you need to borrow £10,000 to do it?

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  • Spacecadet
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    Originally posted by hyperD View Post
    C
    Especially since the Biased BBC has been exposed, for what we all suspected, for its non-impartial stance of the '"The Science Is Settled" bolloks:
    Richard Black left the BBC at the end of August, which has meant real science can finally get a look in on the Science Pages

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