Reply to: Iran Vs Israel...if it kicks off, how does it go?

[escapeUK]

It's because of those people you hate so much you can post just about any tulip you like and it not be in German. Idiot.

Yeah bastards, we could have been living in a first world reich now if not for them!

My last living gran has said that if they had known that the government would give the country away to foreigners and turn it into a 3rd world tulip hole no one would have fought.

[Lockhouse]

I generally hate any man who enters into an agreement that obliges him to wield terminal force on another's command, and to waive his right, for 18 months-20 years, or whatever the duration of said agreement, to determine whether that command is needed, justified.

Killing isn't pacifistic.

It's because of those people you hate so much you can post just about any tulip you like and it not be in German.

[escapeUK]

Just feeling sad for some people discussing war as if its some sort of football game.

Nothing good ever came of a football game. Though think of the massive technology leaps we made through wars.

[Malcolm Buggeridge]

pacifistic.

Good lord, what a mouthful. What's wrong with pacific?

[JaybeeInCUK]

Really, now why do you equate pacifism with hating the military?

I generally hate any man who enters into an agreement that obliges him to wield terminal force on another's command, and to waive his right, for 18 months-20 years, or whatever the duration of said agreement, to determine whether that command is needed, justified.

Killing isn't pacifistic.

[stevejohnson]

Hi Steve

Looks like you've tanked a bit since I last read one of your posts.

What the Dickens have you been up to?

Just feeling sad for some people discussing war as if its some sort of football game.

[Malcolm Buggeridge]

In the process all English citizens would face mandatory retrospective IR35 compliance since the creation the Companies House and since there is no economy left to make the money from to pay all tax debt all will be sent to the front line or shell manufacturing factories.

Hi Steve

Looks like you've tanked a bit since I last read one of your posts.

What the Dickens have you been up to?

[stevejohnson]

In the process all English citizens would face mandatory retrospective IR35 compliance since the creation the Companies House and since there is no economy left to make the money from to pay all tax debt all will be sent to the front line or shell manufacturing factories.

[Paddy]

They reckon the Iranians are months, not years away from being able to deploy a deliverable nuke.

Question is, what if the Israeli's get spooked by intel showing centrifuges they didn't know existed, meaning they are even closer? The Iranian's excel at missile technology, so the bottleneck isn't there; just the amount of enriched Uranium. Conceivably they have hardened and deepened their facilities so Israeli/US fighters will have to traverse a LOT of hostile airspace to hit the target.

Or worse...

If Ahmedinejad one fine morning announces, "Screw you all...we just detonated a bomb underground, check the seismic activity near Turkmenistan, and there is jack you can all do to turn back the clock"...

What happens? Do they/we go in all guns blazing? KNOWING he's had years to prepare? I know his air force is a bit early 90's but the way his ground forces are tooled up make Saddam's army in 2003 look like a Conservative Women's Conference meeting.

I'm no warmonger, I hate the military as much as anyone but this dude worries me.

Twat post and where the f&^ck do you get your info?

Iran has started using enriched fuel for making their own nuclear fuel rods. This has been acknowledged by Israel who has but any action on hold.

[stek]

Iran Vs Israel...if it kicks off, how does it go?

1-1 Israel on penalties. Is it a World Cup qualifier?

[hyperD]

Like one of these from the Matrix?

[OwlHoot]

Israel may have new weapons no one has used yet that can drill hundreds of yards underground before detonating a several kiloton nuke.

It would be a modern-day equivalent of some of the Barnes Wallis specials of WW2, such as Grand Slam which caused more damage and in different ways than the Nazis had thought possible.

For example, I heard that DARPA has spent years developing mega-fast and efficient tunnelling machines that can plough through dozens of yards of solid basalt and reinforced concrete every minute. So if something like that could be deployed, it clearly wouldn't take long to deliver a bomb half a mile underground

[Robinho]

Unfortunately its not that simple, the US (and others) have to protect Israel due to various treaties and the very large Jewish population of the US putting pressure

Ok nuke Miami too then. Do i have to think of everything here?

[Clippy]

They reckon the Iranians are months, not years away from being able to deploy a deliverable nuke.

Where is the conclusive intel to support this claim?

To date, and to my knowledge, no intel has been published to support this claim.

Question is, what if the Israeli's get spooked by intel showing centrifuges they didn't know existed, meaning they are even closer?

The Israeli's are, rightly or wrongly, easily spooked.

This isn't a measure of anything other than irrational fears overpowering rational thought.

The Iranian's excel at missile technology, so the bottleneck isn't there; just the amount of enriched Uranium.

More hyperbole.

Iran appears to have a sustainable missile programme but not one that could be viably compared to Western standards in terms of scope and success.

Conceivably they have hardened and deepened their facilities so Israeli/US fighters will have to traverse a LOT of hostile airspace to hit the target.

Or just prudent military planning - no different to what, for example, the US defence department does.

Or worse...

If Ahmedinejad one fine morning announces, "Screw you all...we just detonated a bomb underground, check the seismic activity near Turkmenistan, and there is jack you can all do to turn back the clock"...

What happens? Do they/we go in all guns blazing? KNOWING he's had years to prepare?

This crap doesn't even deserve a response...

I know his air force is a bit early 90's but the way his ground forces are tooled up make Saddam's army in 2003 look like a Conservative Women's Conference meeting.

Would this be the same ground force that lost 300 - 700, 000 troops in the war with Iran?

Assuming they have recovered from this, what 'tools' do they now have at their disposal?

I'm no warmonger, I hate the military as much as anyone but this dude worries me.

Indeed.

[SimonMac]

Hopefully they'll nuke each other to death and there will be no more trouble in that region.

Unfortunately its not that simple, the US (and others) have to protect Israel due to various treaties and the very large Jewish population of the US putting pressure