Removal of interior door - with self-closer

[kingcook]

Well, Mrs did it in 5 mins so it wasnt that hard. Like someone said - he couldnt be arsed.

Even moaned that because of health and safety he wasnt allowed to unplug any electrical equipment FFS.

The other thing is his mate had started cutting up the old carpet and then they decided they werent going to do the job. Bit late since there was know a few cuts across the old carpet.

Then they buggered off and left it. As if thats safe for a disabled person who can hardly walk.

Sorted now though. Got a different fitter going back to fit the carpet (now the door is not an issue).

Perhaps he was trying to protect his IR35 status by keeping to the terms of the contract, not being directed by the client. And/or maybe his insurances didn't cover him for this type of thing.

Did he ask to send in a sub?

[Gentile]

Well, Mrs did it in 5 mins so it wasnt that hard. Like someone said - he couldnt be arsed.

Even moaned that because of health and safety he wasnt allowed to unplug any electrical equipment FFS.

The other thing is his mate had started cutting up the old carpet and then they decided they werent going to do the job. Bit late since there was know a few cuts across the old carpet.

Then they buggered off and left it. As if thats safe for a disabled person who can hardly walk.

Sorted now though. Got a different fitter going back to fit the carpet (now the door is not an issue).

Sounds like a right tube. I'm glad you replaced him. Hopefully the new guy will be more professional and accommodating.

PS: I'm led to believe that getting a door off its hinges is relatively easy. Hanging it back on again and getting a right fit can be a bugger, though.

[psychocandy]

Unbelievable. If I've understood you correctly, I'm surprised they even had to take it off. Even if they were carpeting through the doorway itself, surely it'd have been better to gauge fit if they'd left the door hung? And if you just mean taking the spring out, it shouldn't have been beyond them to use a door stop to hold it open for that part of the proceedings.

I'm glad your Mrs was around to sort it out. Some tradesmen are such jobsworths.

Well, Mrs did it in 5 mins so it wasnt that hard. Like someone said - he couldnt be arsed.

Even moaned that because of health and safety he wasnt allowed to unplug any electrical equipment FFS.

The other thing is his mate had started cutting up the old carpet and then they decided they werent going to do the job. Bit late since there was know a few cuts across the old carpet.

Then they buggered off and left it. As if thats safe for a disabled person who can hardly walk.

Sorted now though. Got a different fitter going back to fit the carpet (now the door is not an issue).

[psychocandy]

FTFH

Yep. Spot on.

What annoys me most is the store knew the situation. I overegged it that the old man couldnt do a thing and they assured me it would be sorted.

Then fitter turns up and cant be arsed.

[Gentile]

Tell me about it.

Fella who turned up couldnt give a toss. In the end, Mrs went around and took the door off in 5 minutes. Spring bit wasnt even attached.

Fitters excuse - Im not a carpenter I didnt know it was that easy!

Unbelievable. If I've understood you correctly, I'm surprised they even had to take it off. Even if they were carpeting through the doorway itself, surely it'd have been better to gauge fit if they'd left the door hung? And if you just mean taking the spring out, it shouldn't have been beyond them to use a door stop to hold it open for that part of the proceedings.

I'm glad your Mrs was around to sort it out. Some tradesmen are such jobsworths.

[vetran]

Fitters excuse - Im not a carpenter I couldn't be bothered!

FTFH

[SueEllen]

Fitters excuse - Im not a carpenter I didnt know it was that easy!

Well we know who does the DIY in his household.

[psychocandy]

Tell me about it.

Fella who turned up couldnt give a toss. In the end, Mrs went around and took the door off in 5 minutes. Spring bit wasnt even attached.

Fitters excuse - Im not a carpenter I didnt know it was that easy!

[SueEllen]

CarpetRight, however, are complete TWATS. Thought it'd all been sorted out with them. They promised me they'd go the extra mile to help out to get it done but in reality they didnt.

Carpet fitters for most large shops and chains are normally independant tradesmen who are contracted by the shop to fit carpets for their customers.

If the cut they are getting isn't big enough or they know they will get work regardless of complaints then they don't care.

Hence small shops where the carpet fitters are staff are the way to go.

[psychocandy]

Have since spoken to Housing Association. Apparently, its just a normal door with a self-closer on it.

To be honest, the old man never closes the door anyway since hes lived there. The carpet is too thick for the door to close.

CarpetRight, however, are complete TWATS. Thought it'd all been sorted out with them. They promised me they'd go the extra mile to help out to get it done but in reality they didnt.

[Paddy]

not a bad description of how to bodge it :


Open the door as much as possible so the spring is at full extension & slip
a nail or similar through the links of the chain where it enters the door.
Close the door slightly & the tension should be gone.

Don't be tempted to remove it or leave it unconnected - they are there for
fire safety reasons.

If you twist the chain anti-clockwise it will reduce tension and eventually come undone. It can then be reinserted and twisted clockwise to increase tension. Using a mole-grip helps.

[vetran]

Anyone ever done this?

Got a chain on the middle hinge which is a sort of tensioner. Perkomatic I think its called.

Easy to remove or special tool needed?

78 yr old father was having carpet fitted today and fitters refused because they said they couldnt do it. Looks like I'll be driving 30 miles over there later to sort out. :-(

not a bad description of how to bodge it :


Open the door as much as possible so the spring is at full extension & slip
a nail or similar through the links of the chain where it enters the door.
Close the door slightly & the tension should be gone.

Don't be tempted to remove it or leave it unconnected - they are there for
fire safety reasons.

[psychocandy]

Anyone ever done this?

Got a chain on the middle hinge which is a sort of tensioner. Perkomatic I think its called.

Easy to remove or special tool needed?

78 yr old father was having carpet fitted today and fitters refused because they said they couldnt do it. Looks like I'll be driving 30 miles over there later to sort out. :-(