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Last edited by stevejohnson; 8 October 2012, 20:26.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostIt's different from yer arse, not that you'd know it.
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostWell I think it's a bad idea to regulate migration if you're not prepared to regulate trade and business. Personally I'm in favour of as much freedom for business AND migration as possible, but I think the two need to go together. If labour's expensive in the UK, then companies CAN choose to hire cheaper people from Elbonia, but they could also choose to move to Elbonia and exploit people there (while sacking their British workers), especially if you prevent Elbonians leaving and going somewhere better. As it stands now, people who feel they are being exploited or treated like tulip somewhere in Europe can go somewhere else where they'll get a better deal; that applies to you just as much as it applies to Romanians and Bulgarians; following market theory that should discourage poor employers and governments who treat people like tulip, because their people will leave.
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Originally posted by vetran View Postunfortunately progress is a series of small steps and concessions. If you wait for perfection nothing gets done.
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unfortunately progress is a series of small steps and concessions. If you wait for perfection nothing gets done.
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Originally posted by vetran View Postthey can't. that needs to be done.
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Originally posted by vetran View Postconsidering most shops, factories,coffee shops and restaurants around London are staffed almost entirely with Eastern Europeans yes.
Its hardly a big issue if you make it a simple Highly Skilled Migrant / work Visa.
Strangely enough every high grade employee we have transferred from places like Switzerland or the USA has had no difficulty getting a visa. If you do that you can also add no recourse to public funds which stops eastern European organised welfare abuse which is becoming common.
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostNo, but is the problem of Bulgarians and Romanians bringing cheap labour really big enough to justify hindering businesses who want to bring in highly paid specialists from the richer EU countries like Germany, Holland or France?
Its hardly a big issue if you make it a simple Highly Skilled Migrant / work Visa.
Strangely enough every high grade employee we have transferred from places like Switzerland or the USA has had no difficulty getting a visa. If you do that you can also add no recourse to public funds which stops eastern European organised welfare abuse which is becoming common.
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostNo, but is the problem of Bulgarians and Romanians bringing cheap labour really big enough to justify hindering businesses who want to bring in highly paid specialists from the richer EU countries like Germany, Holland or France?
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Originally posted by vetran View PostSo currently they spend less, therefore their tax burden is less and their cost of living is less. They are cheaper. it may be transitory as Indian and Chinese outsourcing was,its now becoming expensive to hire a Bob but can you wait for two decades until we are cheaper again?
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