War on Drugs ...update

[hyperD]

Best way of dealing with heroin abuse was the Chinese/Mongolian way:

1. Ditch the ridiculous human rights act.

2. Get said drug addicts in a popular town square chained in a large circle in front of police or Buddhist monks.

3. Force feed the drug addicts water laced with a potion that "frees the evil drugs demons" (cigarette ash and water, a known purgative)

4. Bring hords of school children and public in to watch

5. Watch the huge projectile vomiting of the drug addicts all day

6. Kids don't fancy the "glamourised" hard drugs

7. Drug addicts are left to hard labour until "reformed" (or dead)

8. Go to 1.

[TheMonkey]

I think we should bring back public flogging for the bastards.

I also think that Class A drugs are not the problem. More people get damaged by the silly stance the government takes over class C drugs (slapped wrists). The amount of people who drive round here whilst stoned is incredible and I have even shown video evidence to the police on one count and they haven't done anything about it.

Drugs are drugs and should be eliminated at the source and at the user. The middle men will all starve then.

[xoggoth]

Rubbish. You cannot legalise such drugs.

It may work for a few rich rock stars and city brokers who can afford it, but for the average junky, the adverse effects of the drugs and the ever increasing dose needed to acheive the same high soon make it impossible from them to earn a sufficient living to support the habit other than by criminal means.

This would be true even if legalisation made the drugs cheaper. If you do make them legal and cheaper then far more will become addicted.

Only answers in the UK, more rehab centres coupled with a very harsh choice, either take rehab seriously and stop offending to feed the habit, or face a long jail sentence, not for the habit (if people want to kill themselves it's a matter of choice) but for crimes committed to feed it. We also need a prison system where drugs are not easier to get inside than they are outside.

Addiction should be considered an aggravating factor in crime, not an excuse, for the simple reason that an addict is far more likely to reoffend and is a greater threat to the public.

As for the suppliers - except for those licenced to supply for actual medical use - provide aid and support for alternative crops and burn the fields out wherever found.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Well I am sure there are governments out there who are a)turning a blind eye and/or b)profiting of the drugs trade, but not the US or UK government.

What about the CIA or MI6 ?

To legalise the ilegal drugs would lead to a vast drop in profits for the global shadow dealers ... thats why that will not happen.

[Fleetwood]

Legalise it - don't criticise it.

Peter Tosh (?)

[Joe Black.]

Well I am sure there are governments out there who are a)turning a blind eye and/or b)profiting of the drugs trade, but not the US or UK government.

[AlfredJPruffock]

They need to come up with some other way of dealing with the drugs issue such as legalising and controlling Class A drugs such as Heroin and Cocaine. It's an impossible task trying to eliminate the drug trade. It well never happen. If you look at Colombia, they are producing more Coke than they have ever done, despite the close attention of the DEA. It's a complicated issue, but some form of legalisation needs to be addressed. At least it can be taxed which will shut the government up.

Now then.

The International Drug Trade turnover is bigger than the Oil Industry, Im talking here about the illegal one, not the Glaxo Klien one.

Do you think that such a vast international business is run in reality by a few crooks and mafia people with the Governments helplessly observing this vast amount of funds and money?

Before the invasion of Afghanistan the Taliban had eradicated the Heroin industry , it is now back bigger then ever, so you believe that the might of the armed forece of the US and UK could not stop this cultivation and trade ... if they really wanted to stop it , that is ?

Think it over ...


From the BBC Online


A group of US soldiers arrested for alleged cocaine smuggling cannot be allowed to stand trial in Colombia, Washington's envoy to Bogota has said.
Colombian senators have been calling for the men, who were based in the country, to be extradited from the US.


But US ambassador William Wood said the soldiers are immune from prosecution.


More than 200 Colombian citizens have been extradited to the US to face trial for drug trafficking, under a bilateral deal between the two countries.

Colombian politicians have asked the government to push for the US to hand over the men, arguing that the extradition agreement works both ways.

"In practical terms, these military personnel committed the alleged crime in Colombia, and according to the extradition treaty, which is bilateral, they should be tried here," legislator Gustavo Petro said.

President Alvaro Uribe, who is visiting China, has said he will review the issue "very carefully"

[deforce]

...... call for a "jihad" on drugs ......

ROFL

[DimPrawn]

Legalise it and tax it heavily.

HTH

G Brown.

[Joe Black.]

They need to come up with some other way of dealing with the drugs issue such as legalising and controlling Class A drugs such as Heroin and Cocaine. It's an impossible task trying to eliminate the drug trade. It well never happen. If you look at Colombia, they are producing more Coke than they have ever done, despite the close attention of the DEA. It's a complicated issue, but some form of legalisation needs to be addressed. At least it can be taxed which will shut the government up.

[PRC1964]

It must be very beautiful in Afghanistan.

[MrsGoof]

such as encouraging farmers to grow legal crops, have proved fruitless.

[AlfredJPruffock]

The Afghanistan province being patrolled by British troops will produce at least a third of the world's heroin this year, according to drug experts who are forecasting a record harvest that will be an embarrassment for the western-funded war on narcotics.


British officials are bracing themselves for the result of an annual UN poppy survey due later this summer.

Early indications show an increase on Helmand's 1999 record of 45,000 hectares (112,500 acres) and a near-doubling of last year's crop.

"It's going to be massive," said one British drugs official. "My guess is it's going to be the biggest ever."

Helmand's bumper harvest highlights the failure of western counter-narcotics efforts that have cost at least $2bn (£1.1bn) since 2001. It could undo progress made last year, when poppy cultivation dropped 21% after a call for a "jihad" on drugs by the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai.

It spells particularly bad news for Britain, which is leading the anti-narcotics campaign and has deployed 3,300 soldiers to the lawless province.

Afghanistan produces almost 90% of the world's heroin, with about a third coming from Helmand.

Drug experts say the province is as central to Afghanistan's illegal economy as California is to America's legal one. "If you took Helmand out of the picture, Afghanistan would fall from the world's top poppy grower to second or third place," said one US official.

British and American officials cannot resort to the tactics of the Taliban, which slashed poppy cultivation in 2001 by threatening to shoot farmers. But western efforts using less violent methods, such as encouraging farmers to grow legal crops, have proved fruitless.