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Previously on "Bradley Wiggins - Can he win it ?"

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  • Doggy Styles
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    I don't know about the football and rugby world cups because they are team sports, but Wiggy has got to be up there amongst the best individual British serial achievers, such as Redgrave, Faldo and Perry.

    This year he's also won the hat-trick of the Criterium du Dauphine, Paris-Nice and the Tour de Romandie.

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  • roseyw
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    Just like to add, well done to the guy. For years to come the Brits will remember this amazing achievement. He's worked all his life for this!

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by Old Hack View Post
    Been a fan, and active member of a cycling club for years.
    I've been watching / following cycling since the 80s. Never raced myself , though i am thinking of taking up short tts for my mid life crisis. I wasn't suggesting you were an armchair fan, but there are an awful lot of people who've tuned into the tour who have no idea what the spring classics are. They'll be expecting a repeat next year and probably slagging him off if it doesn't happen.

    Personally i've always admired the climbers, hence my bitter disappointment when rasmussen was busted, I actually switched off at that point, and to some extent that explains my distrust of contador. I want to like him but I just don't think his tt performances are believable. Thats a shame for me and him.

    I know it's an achievement, but it really isn't like winning a world cup, not at all. It's like being the first Englishman to win anything they'd not won before. Like a boxer, a racing driver, something like that.
    It's the biggest event in the sport, one of the biggest in any sport, and one that captures the public imagination. And i suppose to my inner child, racing up the hill near my house with my rainbow gloves on trying to beat my best time home from school again and reach the magic 30mph average it's the pinnacle of sport, of any kind. So it's subjective, but to my eyes definitely worthy of comparison.

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  • Old Hack
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    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    It's not a sensible comparison. I'd say it's up there with winning the world cup or something like that, but you can't really say one is better than the other.

    Yes, the route did suit him, but he still had to win it. He can't really do any better than he did.

    It's amusing the number of people who are suddenly cycling fans. The weight of ignorant expectation on his shoulders next year will be something to behold...
    Been a fan, and active member of a cycling club for years.

    I know it's an achievement, but it really isn't like winning a world cup, not at all. It's like being the first Englishman to win anything they'd not won before. Like a boxer, a racing driver, something like that.

    Someone mentioned Ben Ainslie never seems to get a mention and yet he's been one of our most successful sportmen ever, period.

    No, it's a good thing, he's done something for the first time, for one country, in the 99th time of it running, thats all. If he can win it next year, then that's the time to celebrate, for that really will be an achievement, imo. This year was made for him, but as you said, he still had to do it, so well done for that.

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by Old Hack View Post
    best ever achievement by a British sportsman? Honestly?
    It's not a sensible comparison. I'd say it's up there with winning the world cup or something like that, but you can't really say one is better than the other.

    Yes, the route did suit him, but he still had to win it. He can't really do any better than he did.

    It's amusing the number of people who are suddenly cycling fans. The weight of ignorant expectation on his shoulders next year will be something to behold...

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  • Old Hack
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    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    His dad was Australian, but he grew up in London. He's as English as Prince Charles. And a lot more aerodynamic.
    Precisely, born in Belgium to aussie dad, english mum, then moved to london, and latterly to lanzarote, or one of the other places.

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Born in Belgium to English parents and spent a lot of time in France.
    His dad was Australian, but he grew up in London. He's as English as Prince Charles. And a lot more aerodynamic.

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  • TimberWolf
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    Arise, Sir Bradley: PM supports Britain's demands for knighthood as Wiggins eyes £20m windfall | Mail Online

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    Is Wiggins Belgium, English or Aus?
    Born in Belgium to English parents and spent a lot of time in France.

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  • Troll
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    Is Wiggins Belgium, English or Aus?

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  • Old Hack
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    Cavendish and Contador? Who could be stupid enough to attempt to compare. I actually admire Cavendish more than Wiggins, for me he started the revolution in cycling in UK, him and Hoy. IMO.

    I still think the way the TdF was organised this year, its layout, format, was suited to Wiggins, and I can't see him performing the same trick next year, just can't. Interesting to see Froome off to race Contador in his first race back. Good to see how Froome fares, I believe Contador has been in training throughout his ban and will be hungry, and I kind of rate Froome highly, going to be interesting to watch.

    Can't believe the over the top hype Wiggins is getting - Greatest ever sporting achievement for a Brit? Is this honestly the tulipe we have to read? I like Wiggins for the man he is, and salute an incredible achievement, but the best ever achievement by a British sportsman? Honestly?

    Ace to see the Yellow jersey lead Cavendish out though the other day however.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    I reckon on the strength of that last time trial we might see him have a crack at the hour record as well.
    If he can do that after 3000 km's of racing think what he could do if he has a bit of a sit down and a cuppa first.

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  • doodab
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    I reckon on the strength of that last time trial we might see him have a crack at the hour record as well.

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
    Well done and all that, but aren't people who are saying it's our greatest sporting achievement ever and our best sportsman ever a bit OTT?
    He's certainly up there IMO. 3 golds from 2 olympics and a victory in probably the toughest contest in the mainstream sporting pantheon, not to mention the rest of his career. Another shot at olympic gold in the time trial on 1st August where he's probably favourite or 2nd favourite after Cancellara.

    Having said that Cav is rewriting cycling records and will quite possibly top the all time list of stage winners in the TdF before he's done.

    They are certainly worthy of comparison with any british sportsmen I can think of.

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  • TimberWolf
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    Well done and all that, but aren't people who are saying it's our greatest sporting achievement ever and our best sportsman ever a bit OTT?

    He certainly deserves a good hearty meal or two now. His spindly arms freak me out.

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