Reply to: Pin photos of benefits cheats to lamp-posts to shame them, says top DWP official

[DodgyAgent]

No. People that have wealth and choose not to give it to a government so that they can dump the lot into mega corps that in turn don't pay any tax are fine. There is nothing wrong with them or their ethics. The additional money that I have chosen to legally avoid paying to hector over the years have placed many Latvian lap dancers in work. Thats far better for my local economy than letting hector give it to Cap Gemini and Fujitsu in Outsourcing deals. Or help BIS to flood my country with ICT slaves.

The guy that chooses to sit on their arse gives nothing to society.

FTFY

[Old Hack]

My consience is clean (well with regard to benefits and tax anyway)

Mine too. Been happily avoiding it for years...

[Diver]

Be careful what you wish for...

My consience is clean (well with regard to benefits and tax anyway)

[d000hg]

No. People that have wealth and choose not to give it to a government so that they can dump the lot into mega corps that in turn don't pay any tax are fine. There is nothing wrong with them or their ethics. The additional money that I have chosen to legally avoid paying to hector over the years have placed many local carpenters and tradesmen in work. Thats far better for my local economy than letting hector give it to Cap Gemini and Fujitsu in Outsourcing deals. Or help BIS to flood my country with ICT slaves.

The guy that chooses to sit on their arse gives nothing to society.

So because you can justify it, you're in the right. Don't you think the benefits claimants can put up an argument that to them is equally sensible?

[bobspud]

Are people who are legally entitled to benefits yet choose not to work on a par with people who avoid paying tax through legal loopholes?

No. People that have wealth and choose not to give it to a government so that they can dump the lot into mega corps that in turn don't pay any tax are fine. There is nothing wrong with them or their ethics. The additional money that I have chosen to legally avoid paying to hector over the years have placed many local carpenters and tradesmen in work. Thats far better for my local economy than letting hector give it to Cap Gemini and Fujitsu in Outsourcing deals. Or help BIS to flood my country with ICT slaves.

The guy that chooses to sit on their arse gives nothing to society.

[Old Greg]

Are people who are legally entitled to benefits yet choose not to work on a par with people who avoid paying tax through legal loopholes?

Depends.

[d000hg]

Are people who are legally entitled to benefits yet choose not to work on a par with people who avoid paying tax through legal loopholes?

I thought CUK was in favour of avoiding tax? In which case we should applaud the claimants for also playing the system in a legal way.

[DodgyAgent]

It is important to distinguish between benefits claimants and cheats.

I expect they will get muddled up, just as refugees became asylum seekers, and then muddled withbogus asylum seekers.

All jolly useful at drawing some attention away from the crimes of our betters.

Are people who are legally entitled to benefits yet choose not to work on a par with people who avoid paying tax through legal loopholes?

[exguid]

Mod note:

Exguid, if you've just joined to insult other posters this is going to be a short membership.

Oh, and don't think that by flooding the board with your comments today is going to win you friends moderator wise...

[MarillionFan]

What precisely does his salary have to do with anything? How very English... look down on the poor, take digs at those you aspire to be.

Salary is an indication of success. If you don't 100k a year minimum then you are worthless.

Everyone knows that.

[Old Greg]

You don't need to "be in touch" to be allowed to make comments about benefit frauds. After all most of us aren't "in touch" either but we think we're in a good position to lambast benefits claimants, let alone benefits cheats.

By this logic, we aren't "in touch" with the rich either, but we also like to tell them how they're doing it wrong!

It is important to distinguish between benefits claimants and cheats.

I expect they will get muddled up, just as refugees became asylum seekers, and then muddled withbogus asylum seekers.

All jolly useful at drawing some attention away from the crimes of our betters.

[bobspud]

Pin photos of benefits cheats to lamp-posts to shame them, says top DWP official - Telegraph

says Terry Moran, whose salary in 2011 was £169,000.

I don't mind him earning £169k well done him!
I don't even mind if he has chosen to be an interim professional rather than a fulltime resource.

I do mind if he does not get results. Or worse causes a stream of ambulance chasing law suits from claimants that say that they have been abused mentally or physically because some anonymous government official posted a photo up to make them a local version of a pedophile...

The law should be the deterrent not the crowds...

[d000hg]

You don't need to "be in touch" to be allowed to make comments about benefit frauds. After all most of us aren't "in touch" either but we think we're in a good position to lambast benefits claimants, let alone benefits cheats.

By this logic, we aren't "in touch" with the rich either, but we also like to tell them how they're doing it wrong!

[Scoobos]

What precisely does his salary have to do with anything? How very middle class... look down on the poor, take digs at those you aspire to be.

It is relevant though, you can't be in touch with earners of less than 26,000 (the household income average) - who are in fact, the majority of the country; and the people that idjits like him are supposed to be serving.

[d000hg]

Pin photos of benefits cheats to lamp-posts to shame them, says top DWP official - Telegraph

says Terry Moran, whose salary in 2011 was £169,000.

What precisely does his salary have to do with anything? How very English... look down on the poor, take digs at those you aspire to be.