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  • hyperD
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    Behind every tax-payer subsidised windfarm lies a tax-payer subsidised CCGT on spinning standby burning fossil fuel.

    Behind every photoshopped picture of a cooling tower billowing black, wicked smoke, lies a cooling tower venting steam while a CCGT goes into spinning standby.

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  • Diver
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Beautiful. I'd rather see a windmill than a tower block.
    This makes sense, since at night the ground becomes much cooler than the air just a few hundred meters above the surface, and the wind farms generate gentle turbulence near the ground that causes these to mix together, thus the ground doesn't get quite as cool. This same strategy is commonly used by fruit growers (who fly helicopters over the orchards rather than windmills) to combat early morning frosts.”


    Pictured: The stunning 'micro-climate' of sea fog created around one of Britain's windfarms | Mail Online

    Retired garage owner Mike Page, 70, of Strumpshaw, Norfolk, who captured the scene from his Cessna 150 light aircraft, said: 'The spinning blades whip moisture into the air like giant egg mixers 'It definitely occurs several times a year, sometimes gathering upwind of the turbines and sometimes downwind depending on the conditions.

    Ah! so they cause fog even befor the wind gets to them

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    That's the second biggest problem. The sight of them everywhere in what is supposed to be nature's countryside is the biggest problem.
    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    How many flour mills are/were there?

    In the flourmill age, when you look up at the moors, did you see something like this?



    Or this?



    Or this?

    Beautiful. I'd rather see a windmill than a tower block.

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  • Scoobos
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    look comparitively pretty to me, compared to a bloody great chimney bellowing grey smoke out.

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  • bobspud
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    How many flour mills are/were there?

    In the flourmill age, when you look up at the moors, did you see something like this?



    Or this?



    Or this?

    Where are those farms? Are they actually built on UK soil or are they just photoshopped? The most props I have seen in a single farm is near the A14 in Northampton. (no more than 10) We have a single turbine on the mendips it looks quite nice.

    Those photos are ugly but Im sure thats the NIMBY point of them.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by bobspud View Post
    Do you think that there was this much whining about the windmills that used to grind our flour? I think the windmills look better than a dozen or more solar panel on a pan tile roof but there you go.
    How many flour mills are/were there?

    In the flourmill age, when you look up at the moors, did you see something like this?



    Or this?



    Or this?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by bobspud View Post
    Do you think that there was this much whining about the windmills that used to grind our flour?
    They were making essential food, whoever whined about it just had to stay hungry

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  • bobspud
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    That's the second biggest problem. The sight of them everywhere in what is supposed to be nature's countryside is the biggest problem.
    Do you think that there was this much whining about the windmills that used to grind our flour? I think the windmills look better than a dozen or more solar panel on a pan tile roof but there you go.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    IMO the biggest issue with turbines is what happens if the wind does not blow. you have to have conventional power generators ready.
    Unemployed people on lots of bicycles as backup to turn the turbine when the wind is not blowing?

    With current level of unemployment and high energy prices this could keep them fit and also earn the money ...

    Just an idea.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    IMO the biggest issue with turbines is what happens if the wind does not blow. you have to have conventional power generators ready.
    That's the second biggest problem. The sight of them everywhere in what is supposed to be nature's countryside is the biggest problem.

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  • BrilloPad
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    IMO the biggest issue with turbines is what happens if the wind does not blow. you have to have conventional power generators ready.

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  • DodgyAgent
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  • DimPrawn
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    Sorry, Louise, but global warming is caused by me, and my Jewish friends. After a heavy day secretly ruling the world, as we relax over some barbecued polar bears, we point special heat guns at the sky and deliberately warm the planet - just to terrify a lot of pampered and poorly-educated geeks all across the western world.

    We stopped 12 years ago, by the way. Thought you'd all have noticed by now. Muppets.

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  • DimPrawn
    started a topic Fighting climate change causes climate change

    Fighting climate change causes climate change

    Wind farms can cause climate change, finds new study - Telegraph

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