Reply to: <conspiracy theory "Gareth Williams"

[wim121]

Nobody was saying it was impossible for a contortionist or very flexible person to do that as a trick. That wasn't the debate which they are glossing over (no surprise there), the debate was:
- The individual in question wouldn't be able to climb in to a holdall, in a bathtub. Hurrah if some young flexible blonde can, nearly all people the subjects age, gender and size cannot.
- Even if one could, no one would off themselves in such a way. You would panic and leave signs of clawing away on the inside of the bag, but a suicidal person wouldn't even contemplate that.
- If one is truly suicidal, leaving a mystery behind or clear forethought and concious behaviour to execute such a plan, isn't what goes through the mind of one overridden with such powerful emotions. Expecting anyone to believe otherwise is foolhardy.

[Old Hack]

If it wasn't foul play, perhaps he had a nervous breakdown. It's odd how the circumstances of his death, within a locked bag within a locked flat, an enigma within an enigma so to speak, are vaguely analogous to the kind of decryption work he was doing. So if it was suicide then maybe he intended the circumstances to be symbolic.

I thought the very same thing. Genuinely thought maybe he wanted to leave a riddle. But then you see all of the procedures not being adhered to by MI6 staff and it makes you question yourself...

[BrilloPad]

Perhaps he used a key made of ice.

Thank you Mr Creek. Now back to your windmill please.

[OwlHoot]

Army veteran claims spy-in-bag could easily have locked himself in holdall... and we can prove it in video | Mail Online

I don't know enough to speculate. Was the key in the bag with him?

Perhaps he used a key made of ice.

[TimberWolf]

Army veteran claims spy-in-bag could easily have locked himself in holdall... and we can prove it in video | Mail Online

I don't know enough to speculate. Was the key in the bag with him?

[BrilloPad]

No, it was a deferred payment with very high punitive interest.

HTH

How the divorced amongst us here wish we had been like you. Unattractive to women. We are all jealous.

[AtW]

He paid to stop having to do it, surely.

No, it was a deferred payment with very high punitive level of interest.

HTH

[d000hg]

He paid to stop having to do it, surely.

[AtW]

You're a sick puppy, no wonder you can't get laid without paying for it.

I think it's you paid to get laid - remember that expensive divorce of yours?

[SupremeSpod]

I am laughing at you because you amuse me like a klown.

Why, because I think the DVA is a joke or did you just decide that now was the right time to start laughing?

You're a sick puppy, no wonder you can't get laid without paying for it.

[AtW]

What are you laughing at? Someone died, you sick bastard!

I am laughing at you because you amuse me like a klown.

[SupremeSpod]

What are you laughing at? Someone died, you sick bastard!

[AtW]

The upsetting thing is that these people have been vetted and deemed to be fit to serve in positions of great trust.

[SupremeSpod]

It is quite clear you have to be gay and/or into bondage to be in MI6. Why don't they just advertise for those talents? The good at spying bit can be taken as read.

The Adventures of James Bondage

The upsetting thing is that these people have been vetted and deemed to be fit to serve in positions of great trust.

The DVA is a bloody joke!

Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Security and Intelligence | DBS National Security Vetting | The Vetting Process

[TimberWolf]

He's done it before, allegedly: MI6 spy Gareth Williams was 'discovered in bed with hands tied to headboard' - Telegraph