Reply to: Abu Qatada al-Filistini

[d000hg]

It is a condescending leftie view that is taken entirely to make the "leftie" feel better about himself.

Only in your mind, I think you see the word 'social' in "social conscience" and read it as 'socialist'.

Sure, some people will jump on a bandwagon to further their own agenda but I don't see what politics has to do with the underlying issue, unless you claim that capitalism and conscience are opposing views.

Actually, pure capitalism does seem that way quite often

[lilelvis2000]

So what's the downside?

Nothing for the UK and torturers cheap and disposable for Jordan...I'd say none.

[lilelvis2000]

sasguru is too busy doing extra night shifts in his permie role in Wandsworth HMP so that he can make last payments on his Aygo.

HTH

Is he the shower towel "boy" there?

[AtW]

sasguru is too busy doing extra night shifts in his permie role in Wandsworth HMP so that he can make last payments on his Aygo.

HTH

[Old Greg]

Oh Sasguru, where are you now your forum needs you to call people cretins?

[AtW]

He'd be tortured into recruiting torturers! Then he'd be tortured for taking 25% of their day rate.

So what's the downside?

[lilelvis2000]

I am pretty sure DodgyAgent will be tortured in Jordan.

He'd be tortured into recruiting torturers! Then he'd be tortured for taking 25% of their day rate.

[AtW]

I am pretty sure DodgyAgent will be tortured in Jordan.

[lilelvis2000]

Is DodgyAgent a Jordan citizen?

Probably not, so it will have to be extradition instead. But is there a reason Jordan would want him. Any HR needs in Jordan?

[AtW]

So do you. Shall we deport you to Jordan?

Is DodgyAgent a Jordan citizen?

[Old Greg]

My moral compass identifies that Abu Qatada endorses tyranny, torture and suppression.

So do you. Shall we deport you to Jordan?

[DodgyAgent]

Jordan is not an uncivilised country. It is a country ruled by a brutal dictatorship. To say otherwise is the worst kind of liberalism, that is not prepared to stand up for values such as liberty vs tyranny and right vs wrong. You remind me of a certain type of liberal who says , 'Who are we to condemn cultural practices such as female genital mutilation?'

Once again you appear to have no moral compass.

My moral compass identifies that Abu Qatada endorses tyranny, torture and suppression.

[Old Greg]

Nah, wouldn't mastubate if someone popped him, I'd advise him not to too either, you know, them hooks can smart.

We seem able to deport people for internet 'crime' to a country that still has the death penalty, Australia manages to deport its peaodos here, even if they've taken aussie citizenship up, so I think we shoudl either lose him, pop him, or flick the v's up at Strasbourg and feck him off to Jordan where they can remove any of the other body parts he still has, without pain relief, and slowly.

If you dont like it, write to the guardian you soft bellied ****wits.

And what if you're further back the queue for a state sponsored extrajudicial execution?

[Old Greg]

It is a condescending leftie view that is taken entirely to make the "leftie" feel better about himself. In parallel to this view is an implicit arrogance in the assumption that Jordan is an uncivilised country. What the selfish lefties are not able to consider is that their views often have adverse effects on others. So it may be fine to allow unfettered immigration for any seemingly poor soul but no consideration is given to the cost of feeding, housing and educating these people. Lefties make no personal sacrifices with their liberal views (you feel sorry for immigrants? - fine put them up in your own house then) the indulgence of which is paid for not by the leftie but the poorer sections of our own society that have to compete for example for places at local schools for their offspring.

Jordan is not an uncivilised country. It is a country ruled by a brutal dictatorship. To say otherwise is the worst kind of liberalism, that is not prepared to stand up for values such as liberty vs tyranny and right vs wrong. You remind me of a certain type of liberal who says , 'Who are we to condemn cultural practices such as female genital mutilation?'

Once again you appear to have no moral compass.

[Scoobos]

Coogan had a great line about him on BBC Radio 2 today - something to do with thinking he was called Abracadabra -> and that maybe we could magic him away.