Reply to: Lib Dems propose YET another tax..

[DimPrawn]

They should pay. I bet students use up a greater proportion of council tax in terms of plocing their subsidised pissups, cleaning up their puke & kebab wrappers & their bloody demos.

Hangings too good for them.

Wait one minute......what's that?.....yes.......ok......I see.......Lib Dems have just proposed a tax on kebabs. Sorted.

[MarillionFan]

They should pay. I bet students use up a greater proportion of council tax in terms of plocing their subsidised pissups, cleaning up their puke & kebab wrappers & their bloody demos.

Hangings too good for them.

[AtW]

£30 a month to pay immediately is hardly comparable with £9k to be repaid at some distant date in the future, spread over a number of years.

[TheFaQQer]

If you had to pay for university the decision would be based upon (A) how much can the course bring to my future career (ie salary) and (B) how much is this course costing me now (inc interest + loss of earnings + risk).

And (C) whether having a degree was a requirement to pursue a certain career path.

[TheFaQQer]

Students are supposed to share house, 3 people living together should be able to afford £30 per month council tax each if they can afford to pay £9k per year for studying.

£30 a month to pay immediately is hardly comparable with £9k to be repaid at some distant date in the future, spread over a number of years.

[DodgyAgent]

In the old days a degree in history said enough about the graduate's abilities to offer them jobs in other areas.

If we now say that every course has got to be directly vocational, aren't we losing part of our culture, people studying rigorous non-vocational subjects because they enjoy it?

Sorry I did not explain myself as well as you explained me . Most certainly traditional degrees are still considered very highly by employers.

[Robinho]

If that theory held any water tesco extra value sausages would not exist. Letting the market decide all but guarantees a proliferation of cheap, worthless tulip education.

Cheap sausages exist because (A) people have a desire to eat food and (B) some people don't have a lot of money.

If you had to pay for university the decision would be based upon (A) how much can the course bring to my future career (ie salary) and (B) how much is this course costing me now (inc interest + loss of earnings + risk).

If a course was worthless tulip education but you had to pay for it, nobody would apply for it (before many were because it was free). Likewise if a course was very good for your career but cost a prohibitive amount of money then nobody would apply for it. Universities would focus on providing a course that offered good career opportunities at a sensible price.

[Doggy Styles]

If students had to pay something then this would ensure that they took what was being taught them seriously and I am afraid that this would not only drive up standards but also make providers and students focus on subjects that were more likely to yield jobs.

In the old days a degree in history said enough about the graduate's abilities to offer them jobs in other areas.

If we now say that every course has got to be directly vocational, aren't we losing part of our culture, people studying rigorous non-vocational subjects because they enjoy it?

[DodgyAgent]

If that theory held any water tesco extra value sausages would not exist. Letting the market decide all but guarantees a proliferation of cheap, worthless tulip education.

If students had to pay something then this would ensure that they took what was being taught them seriously and I am afraid that this would not only drive up standards but also make providers and students focus on subjects that were more likely to yield jobs.

[Doggy Styles]

How do you define rubbish though?

The market ideally should decide.

Let's start with all those tens (hundreds?) of thousands of graduates that are unemployed.

Graduates in subjects which the market has decided are rubbish.

[AtW]

Students are supposed to share house, 3 people living together should be able to afford £30 per month council tax each if they can afford to pay £9k per year for studying.

[hyperD]

If that theory held any water tesco extra value sausages would not exist. Letting the market decide all but guarantees a proliferation of cheap, worthless tulip education.

Tesco value sausages will exist because there's a large market for them: people want cheap, grisly, crappy food.

Just as the home made hyperD classy Lobster, Beluga Caviar and Foie Gras sausage will exist because an, albeit smaller, market segment would buy it.

In this situation I would always buy the hyperD one, because I love quality food, until my money deflated away and I was forced to chow on the lips 'n' arrsholes one.

[doodab]

How do you define rubbish though?

The market ideally should decide. Hence why people should pay.

If that theory held any water tesco extra value sausages would not exist. Letting the market decide all but guarantees a proliferation of cheap, worthless tulip education.

[Platypus]

How do you define rubbish though?

The market ideally should decide. Hence why people should pay.

I was about to agree with Brillo, but you make a good point. I agree with you now!

[Robinho]

How do you define rubbish though?

The market ideally should decide. Hence why people should pay.