Stupid journalists

[blinko]

What about the people that end up getting bitten by Tigers, Lions etc and then complain that the animal should be put down. nutters !!

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Although you have a point I think we have a moral duty to support such people who put their lives at risk for worthy causes, just as we should do for Aid workers, people who sail in dodgy waters and get kidnapped and people who foolishly go hiking , get caught in bad weather and endanger the lives of say air rescue people. It is a fine line between "our duty to support" and "recklessness". In the case of these guys I would support their rescue ahead of rescuing some idiot trying to walk across the Cairn Gorms in the middle of winter wearing nothing but sandals, shorts and a tee shirt.

A moral duty eh?

[DodgyAgent]

IMO all these modern rescues take the fun out of the "dangerous tasks". It would have been no fun for Shackleton if he had just called 999. If people attempt these stupid things they should know they might be killed - or pay for insurance in case they need rescuing.

Fair comment. I suppose the world has changed and risks are supposedly reduced. We live in a society that can make rescues so discussions take place accordingly. In Shackletons day the question would not have arisen. having said that I am sure rescue missions were undertaken though voluntarily.
On the other side of course 100 years ago someone would have stepped into a 3 ft pond to rescue a drowning man, whereas today that would no longer happen thanks to health and safety.

[BrilloPad]

Although you have a point I think we have a moral duty to support such people who put their lives at risk for worthy causes, just as we should do for Aid workers, people who sail in dodgy waters and get kidnapped and people who foolishly go hiking , get caught in bad weather and endanger the lives of say air rescue people. It is a fine line between "our duty to support" and "recklessness". In the case of these guys I would support their rescue ahead of rescuing some idiot trying to walk across the Cairn Gorms in the middle of winter wearing nothing but sandals, shorts and a tee shirt.

IMO all these modern rescues take the fun out of the "dangerous tasks". It would have been no fun for Shackleton if he had just called 999. If people attempt these stupid things they should know they might be killed - or pay for insurance in case they need rescuing.

[DodgyAgent]

You are, as usual, missing the point. If this man chooses to endanger his own life to make a living that is his business. I wouldn't want to stop him. To demand others endanger their lives on his behalf isn't reasonable, and this is backed up by the international development minister, Andrew Mitchell, who happens to be a Tory, saying much the same thing. Do you think he's smugly sitting in a conscience free right wing "I support the rich" utopia? Or do you think he has a point?

The fact is someone else (the red crescent, the Arabic equivalent of the red cross) has taken the risk of going in there and tried to rescue him and he has refused to go with them. Twice. It is this which prompted my post, as frankly it seems rather stupid.

Although you have a point I think we have a moral duty to support such people who put their lives at risk for worthy causes, just as we should do for Aid workers, people who sail in dodgy waters and get kidnapped and people who foolishly go hiking , get caught in bad weather and endanger the lives of say air rescue people. It is a fine line between "our duty to support" and "recklessness". In the case of these guys I would support their rescue ahead of rescuing some idiot trying to walk across the Cairn Gorms in the middle of winter wearing nothing but sandals, shorts and a tee shirt.

[BrilloPad]

Who else brings news of what is happening in these countries? Or are you smugly sitting in your conscience free left wing "I support the poor" little utopia? I presume you would rather accept the Syrians accounts of what is happening there.

Were the journos forced to go there? They knew what they were getting into.

Your minset that Britain can send people round the world with impunity is 100 years out of date. We are now a third rate country being overtaken by Asia.

Personally I dont support the poor anyway. I support those with drive who create jobs and make the world a better place to live in.

Anyway, a country like Syria needs a dictator to make it work.

[northernladyuk]

Brain fart.

[doodab]

Who else brings news of what is happening in these countries? Or are you smugly sitting in your conscience free left wing "I support the poor" little utopia? I presume you would rather accept the Syrians accounts of what is happening there.

You are, as usual, missing the point. If this man chooses to endanger his own life to make a living that is his business. I wouldn't want to stop him. To demand others endanger their lives on his behalf isn't reasonable, and this is backed up by the international development minister, Andrew Mitchell, who happens to be a Tory, saying much the same thing. Do you think he's smugly sitting in a conscience free right wing "I support the rich" utopia? Or do you think he has a point?

The fact is someone else (the red crescent, the Arabic equivalent of the red cross) has taken the risk of going in there and tried to rescue him and he has refused to go with them. Twice. It is this which prompted my post, as frankly it seems rather stupid.

[Spacecadet]

Who else brings news of what is happening in these countries? Or are you smugly sitting in your conscience free left wing "I support the poor" little utopia? I presume you would rather accept the Syrians accounts of what is happening there.

WHS

Or should all journo's sit in an office all day hacking phones?

[gingerjedi]

Who else brings news of what is happening in these countries? Or are you smugly sitting in your conscience free left wing "I support the poor" little utopia? I presume you would rather accept the Syrians accounts of what is happening there.

I thought people on CUK didn't give a tulip? http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ads-syria.html

[DodgyAgent]

This is getting on my nerves now.

The other day we had a journalists wife suggesting that the foreign office should "get him out because he put his life at risk". Apologies if I sound unsympathetic but the reality is that mounting a mission into a besieged city without permission from the people shelling the place in order to rescue someone who chose to put his own life at risk is foolhardly and only likely to endanger more lives.

Now it seems some rather brave folks from the red crescent have attempted to rescue the French woman who was recently wounded and the above mentioned man and they have refused to go with them. Twice.

Who else brings news of what is happening in these countries? Or are you smugly sitting in your conscience free left wing "I support the poor" little utopia? I presume you would rather accept the Syrians accounts of what is happening there.

[Cliphead]

Journalists do the newspaper writing thing right?

I don't read newspapers.

Do I give a sh1te?

Put yer head above the parapet, take what's coming.

[doodab]

This is getting on my nerves now.

The other day we had a journalists wife suggesting that the foreign office should "get him out because he put his life at risk". Apologies if I sound unsympathetic but the reality is that mounting a mission into a besieged city without permission from the people shelling the place in order to rescue someone who chose to put his own life at risk is foolhardly and only likely to endanger more lives.

Now it seems some rather brave folks from the red crescent have attempted to rescue the French woman who was recently wounded and the above mentioned man and they have refused to go with them. Twice.