Reply to: I actually thought this was funny

[Doggy Styles]

I think it's personal choice to shake hands or not, what I am saying is that Terry played by far smarter when offering to shake hands, if Suarez did the same and Evra refused then it would have been well played by Suarez, now it does not look so good especially given that based on newspaper reports he promised to manager he would shake hands but then he didn't.

So why is Suarez criticised and not Bridge and Ferdinand?

[AtW]

Do we refuse to shake hands with anyone charged with an offence?

I think it's personal choice to shake hands or not, what I am saying is that Terry played by far smarter when offering to shake hands, if Suarez did the same and Evra refused then it would have been well played by Suarez, now it does not look so good especially given that based on newspaper reports he promised to manager he would shake hands but then he didn't.

[BrilloPad]

Sorry but I struggle to understand how anyone can find anything to do with the kkk funny. Maybe I am getting old or something.

[Doggy Styles]

John Terry has been charged with offence, it's understandable that some people might choose not to shake his hand even before verdict is reached.

That's a ludicrus argument.

Do we refuse to shake hands with anyone charged with an offence? For example there's plenty of drink-driving footballers. Furthermore he had not even been accused of any offense when Wayne Bridge refused to shake his hand.

So why is it not understandable that some people choose not to shake hands with Evra? He's no nicer than Terry.

[AtW]

He is not in Uruguay and the kind of money he gets paid should be enough to hire a few good people to teach him what is different.

Even he now knows he got it wrong -

Luis Suarez issues apology for refusing Patrice Evra's handshake before Liverpool's defeat to Manchester United - Telegraph

"He accused Suarez of "misleading" his club and behaving an an unacceptable way.

"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game," said Ayre.

"The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so. "

[Pondlife]

The word allegedly used by Suarez to Evra was 'negrito' - a word that is said to literally translate as 'little black fella' but is argued to be generally an affectionate term in Suarez's native Uruguay and other parts of South America.

Yes, adding ita/ito to a word to make it little is often used in terms of affection and some of the nicknames given by close family/friends might not what we would use over here. Many a kid in South America would have had a nickname based on appearance e.g. gourdito (little fat boy) and so negrito would probably be commonplace on the school yard.

But these two are not close friends or family and so calling someone black boy whilst trash talking to him is a stupid thing to do. Suarez should have known better IMO.

Put another way, just cos you call your one black mate 'chalky' without malice, don't expect not to get a kicking from someone you don't know when you use it.

[AtW]

Wayne Bridge, Rio Ferdinand and Anton Ferdinand refused to shake hands with John Terry without any criticism, which is their right, so why shouldn't Suarez refuse with Evra?

John Terry has been charged with offence, it's understandable that some people might choose not to shake his hand even before verdict is reached.

From Terry's side he acted well - offered to shake hand which makes a big difference with Suarez, I guess being charged in court might actually be a good reason to act smartly.

[Mr.Whippy]

it seems this pre-match shaking hands thing is only good for showing up people who don't like each other. Other than that it's a meaningless waste of time and should be kicked into touch.

+1

As for Alex Ferguson saying Suarez "should never play for Liverpool again"......... do me a favour, I don't recall you saying that when Eric Cantona kung-fu kicked a Crystal Palace supporter. Or when Roy Keane could've ended the career of Alf-Inge Haaland with a high tackle to his knee on purpose with no intent to get the ball, in revenge for something 3 years previously.

Then he said that Evra "shouldn't have done that" when asked about his completely over the top and inflammatory celebration at the end which stirred up both sets of players and fans and could've caused trouble. A totally unbiased, balanced view from Fergie as always then...

Also Kenny Dalglish claiming he didn't see or hear about it? Made yourself look a total tool there.

[Doggy Styles]

Firstly, I agree with GJ, this has become a santimonious witch hunt. Far beyond the offence.

Secondly, if you dislike and don't respect a bloke and everyone knows it, you'd be accused of being a hypocrite if you then shook his hand. Wayne Bridge, Rio Ferdinand and Anton Ferdinand refused to shake hands with John Terry without any criticism, which is their right, so why shouldn't Suarez refuse with Evra?

Lastly, didn't FIFA president Sepp Blatter get widely criticised for suggesting that footballers should just say sorry and shake hands if they make inappropriate comments in the heat of a game? Shaking hands was wrong then, so why is it mandatory now?

Anyway, it seems this pre-match shaking hands thing is only good for showing up people who don't like each other. Other than that it's a meaningless waste of time and should be kicked into touch.

[stek]

I agree Suarez should have just got on with it but Evra is the real tw@t here, playing the race card a little too often, plus he's a Scumchester Urinals player!

[gingerjedi]

It looks as though the FA will throw the book at anyone accused of racism guilty or not, the don't want to be seen as being soft on the issue.

It's funny, just about everyone is on the 'Suarez is guilty' bandwagon but I've yet to find anyone who can explain why.

[Bagpuss]

I think Suarez is the victim here, our press and the 'holier than thou' FA have hung him out to dry over nothing more than a misinterpretation of a dodgy translation.

The Daily Mash - Liverpool sticking with 'Uruguayan racism is really friendly'

[AtW]

It's worth noting Evra has a track record with this sort of thing.

Current track record is that Suarez refused to shake his hand with Evra - if he (Suaraz) had half a brain (in my view) he'd do that with a smile regardless what he thinks. He hasn't and he let his feelings take over his half-brain.

The question he did not ask is whether he is THAT good of a player for Liverpool to continue take damage protecting him?

btw, I have no vested interest in either ManU or LFC or any other football club.

[gingerjedi]

What was his problem to shake Evra's hand?

Did he refuse it knowing full well the effect it will make because he is innocent and he wanted to prove it?

Perhaps Suaraz is just an idiot, but surely he's got some good advisors?

Because Evra has ruined his reputation, he was quoted as saying he didn't think Suarez was a racist yet persisted.

It's worth noting Evra has a track record with this sort of thing.

[AtW]

So an innocent man should say sorry to appease the ignorant masses?

What was his problem to shake Evra's hand?

Did he refuse it knowing full well the effect it will make because he is innocent and he wanted to prove it?

Perhaps Suaraz is just an idiot, but surely he's got some good advisors?