Reply to: For once I agree with Blair

[hyperD]

I feel uncomfortable with letting these geezers off. However, according to the Judge, it was done because the Home Office broke its own laws and thereby fecked its own case. That fact seems to have been lost on Tony Blair.

Well, we can't have a former practising lawyer telling the truth thus revealing his greed and incompetence.

[Mordac]

They did it so they could escape persecution and reach freedom. Would you not do the same if you lived under a regime like that?

I'm beginning to believe we do live under a "regime like that". Xog is right, this is Bliar's fault. Let's hijack a plane and flee to somewhere safe. Any suggestions anyone?

[wendigo100]

I feel uncomfortable with letting these geezers off. However, according to the Judge, it was done because the Home Office broke its own laws and thereby fecked its own case. That fact seems to have been lost on Tony Blair.

[Mustang]

It's all OK....

Thank god for that! At least I can sleep well at night knowing that if someone commits a crime but gets off scot free when it turns out it was only to flee their country and seek political asylum.

What don't people understand about this? Why don't they get punished?? I despair with this country/government!!


Got to run now. I am off to steal an Aston Martin DB9. It's not a problem as I want to use it to escape England and emigrate somewhere else......!! If I am lucky they will throw in a council house whilst I wait for my flight........!!

[Joe Black]

Don't think the HR act per se is the problem. I think it just as much comes down to the sort of dumb a** intepretation of it which too many of the great and good in the UK seem to place on such things. Hence councils banning Xmas card and the like.

[Fleetwood]

You are absolutely 100% spot on their Xoggoth.

there

I read somewhere, can't be fagged to do a search, that this abortion has cost the UK taxpayer around ten million squids.

This 'HR' act is a total f uck-up from start to finish. Yesterday on the Beeb web-tulipe, there was the story about that guy who killed whilst out on parole. Apparently he was let out because of concern over his "human rights".
What about the rights of the poor bird he killed????
And Tony's wife is a ..... wait-for-it....... (drum-roll) Human rights barrister !!!!(cymbal-crash).
Stab them all.

[BobTheCrate]

You are absolutely 100% spot on their Xoggoth.

Bliar was warned by the Tories and others about the folly of signing up to the European human rights. But no; in his PC mode he knew best and the obvious dangers were dismissed and ignored.

Now, this human rights legislation is creating all sorts of problems.

He was warned. Bliar chose to ignore those warnings. These problems are soley of his making and that of his incompetant, single dimensional thinking party.

[DaveB]

No to mention the fact that the judges descision is based on the fact that successive Home Office ministers acted outside the law in making thier decisions. There was a recognised legal process in place that they could have followed in order to deport those involved and they didnt follow it.

That is why Blair is bleating about common sense now, no because the law is wrong but because the actions of the government were illegal. The judge made this quite clear in his ruling and was the reason he awarded costs on an "indemnity basis", the highest level possible, against the Home Office.

The Govt fecked it up and now they are trying to blame the courts for exposing that feck up.

[Gold Dalek]

The BBC's Kate Clark in Kabul says getting hijacked and taken to London does not seem a bad option to many Afghans if it means the hostages get safely off the plane and manage to stay there.

'Missed opportunity'

Afghanistan is a bitterly poor, war-destroyed country and Afghans regularly pay the earnings of a lifetime to shady men who say they will smuggle them into Europe.


"People are selling their family houses and land to get themselves to Britain. These people got [there] free," said Mohammad Siddiq.
"They travelled almost around the world by only spending one million Afghanis ($20)," he said.

One man who was supposed to have been on the flight, but who changed his ticket at the last moment, said he was furious that he had missed the opportunity to get to the West.

Another, a shopkeeper, said that had he known the plane was going to be hijacked and flown to London, he would have tried to get himself and his family on board.

Some people in Kabul speculate that the hijackers' plan is not to press for any political demand but rather to secure asylum.

[Mailman]

Agree with Dang on this.

These guys werent hijacking a plane so they could murder jews or blow it up on a runway in the middle of some tulipty ayerab country! They were doing it out of desperation to flee their country.

I mean, how many of you here would have the balls to do the same if you were in the same situation (although the irony of blairs government looking more and more like the taliban is not lost on me! ).

AND...there should be consideration given for where these guys are going to be sent to. I wouldnt want to go back to Afghanistan, or Zimbabwe, or Australia!

Mailman

[DimPrawn]

Well that's alright then.

They are really heroes. I feel much better about it now and if I'm ever in a plane full of Muslim types with AK47's and grenades I'll just sit back and enjoy the ride.

[dang65]

It's a common device in thriller movies (e.g. The Bourne Identity, Three Days Of The Condor) to have the hero hijack a passing stranger's car and hold them at gunpoint in order to escape from the baddies. They then go on to save the world or something. What if it got to the end of the film and the titles went up and then an extra scene came on showing the hero being sent down for ten years for hijacking and threatening death with a dangerous weapon?

What I mean is, these Afghanis didn't hijack the plane in order to fly it into a skyscraper, or so they could kill innocent passengers and crew unless their demands were met (though that was initially claimed apparently). They did it so they could escape persecution and reach freedom. Would you not do the same if you lived under a regime like that?

[Gold Dalek]

No it's not. What's wrong with your ray gun?

It's slower and more painful

[wendigo100]

stabity stab stab... the only way

No it's not. What's wrong with your ray gun?

[Gold Dalek]

Unbelievable hypocrisy on his part. It was He-Who-Must-Be-Stabbed who signed us up for the sodding European human rights crap in the first place to prove HIS euro credentials. Fat lot of good it did at that either.

Pity we don't have a secret nationalist hit squad to reverse these idiotic legal decisions permanently.

Totally agree either:

This is all spin - record so far on illegal immigration is not good - but put the message out that the judges are to blame for fiasco for following Govt created law rather than those who make the law

He genuinely didn't see the implications when signing up for Human rights bollox

anyway I thought Blair signed all our powers over to Europe regarding who can or can't stay

stabity stab stab... the only way