Reply to: Scotland - the facts

[Ignis Fatuus]

Norsk Hydro - The clue is in the name

Heavy water, anyone?

Like Scottish Hydro?

[Churchill]

Not a winner at trumps I'm afraid, Norway already get 99% of their electricity from Hydro power.

Norsk Hydro - The clue is in the name

Heavy water, anyone?

[shaunbhoy]

There was no such thing / race as 'The Celts'. It's a completely made up construct.

So a lot like "The English" then?

[Alf W]

You're obviously not familiar with English history, are you?

We're all mongrels (except for one or 2 celts in Cornwall...)

There was no such thing / race as 'The Celts'. It's a completely made up construct.

[realityhack]

Fine. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

WNATS

WTS.

You've already got your own currency, and language, you're nearly there already... just finish Hadrian's job for him.

[cojak]

If not for all the Eastern Europeans you now have bringing a huge crime wave with them plus the fact they most of them claim no end of state benefits. England is just a mongrel country with scroungers from the world over living there.

A country should never lose it's identity nor have it's identity modified to suite immigrants.

You're obviously not familiar with English history, are you?

We're all mongrels (except for one or 2 celts in Cornwall...)

[scooterscot]

I couldnt agree more with the above. I dont think we will ever willingly give NI and Scotland independence

We? We?? WE??

Oosssaa -

[TimberWolf]

I wonder whether Alex Salmond is secretly English?



He looks like John Higgins to me, although both are allegedly Scottish.

[cojak]

Fine. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

WNATS

[Harmonic]

One question I've not seen answered is will an independent Scotland gain automatically membership of the EU or will they have to apply?
I expect that the rest of the UK will demand a reduction in our contribution to the EU so the boys in Brussels will expect Scotland to become a net contributor. Of course that's assuming someone doesn't veto their entry.

[mudskipper]

Scotland has got Pandas.

Norway hasn't.

[Incognito]

Scotland need to pay back the UK first, or forever be our slaves.

What do we need to pay back? RBS was a British banking institution with the majority of commercial debt held by English businesses and English citizens. It's a British problem and requires a British solution. The UK will get their money back when they sell off the government stake. We've lost the money that was used to bail out Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley. We sold them at a loss.

Mrdonut, I doubt you even know why Scotland is part of the UK?Anyway, Scotland gave up it's independence willingly and came running to the UK, cap in hand, begging for money because they were bankrupt from their own stupidity. We bailed you out when we could have let you all starve to death.

Darien failed because our so called King (who happened to sit on the throne in London) ordered the English colonies (at Westminster's request) to refuse all trade and assistance with New Caledonia (using some pretext of not wanting to annoy the Spanish). It's no surprise Darien failed and the Union was the only way to settle the debt incurred ( largely backed with English money). Some would almost think the situation was contrived to result in just such a Union. I mean, you weren't able to beat us fairly on the field, why not starve us into submission. You did the same with Ireland.

Hardly anyone does because they're ignorant 's.

Funny that, describes you to a tee.

In modern times, scots feel they are exempt from every other citizen in the UK and feel they should receive special treatment. Who the hell do you think you are, to demand free prescriptions when everyone else in the UK doesnt get them, to get much more money spent on children than every other child in the rest of the kingdom, to come and sit in our parliament yet whine and not allow us to come and sit in yours?

The Bartnett formula was a Unionist invention to try and derail Scottish independence in the 70's. We demand nothing, we get given a set budget and we apportion that money on what the Scottish Government sets out in it's budget. It's called Devolution, another Unionist invention to try and counter independence. You'll find that the SNP abstain from any Westminster vote that does not affect Scotland, you're welcome to google that little fact yourself.

Where is the equality there? You're all pathetic little grubby leeches. In fact, although leeches suck you dry just like scots, the discomfort is far less annoying than having to listen to the claptrap coming out of a scots mouth.

You're all pathetic and the SNP approach of alienating the english from the scots is working thankfully. Now maybe the english will wake up a bit. I'd be more than happy for you bunch of freeloaders to be wiped out. Stop scrounging off my country and my fellow tax payers you grubby little freeloaders. Feel free to meet me at hadrians wall and we'll brick it back up.

However in reality that wont happen. You lot will just want your own rules and taxation, while still receiving support off the UK because you're too tired and pathetic to support yourselves. Grow up!

And this is what it all comes down to. Inherent racism. I welcome odious little scum like you, because you do far more for Scottish Independence than any amount of campaigning. The SNP have no plan to alienate the English. We want to self govern, we don't want a war. Westminster brought up the issue around the referendum and wanting to state timescales etc. A complete about turn from their position last year:

According to a civil service minute of their conversation, seen by this newspaper, Mr Cameron agreed it was for the Scottish Parliament to proceed with the referendum legislation and promised not to obstruct this.
However, there was no mention over the timing and wording of the vote.....

Michael Moore, the Liberal Democrat Scottish Secretary, adopted a more conciliatory tone by saying he would not interfere with the timing. But he said a second referendum after the independence negotiations have been concluded would be necessary to make them legally binding.

David Cameron and Alex Salmond at loggerheads over Scottish independence vote - Telegraph

You see Wim, all we want to do is determine our own future rather than be dictated to by a government that is only interested in the South East of the country. Disagree? It's all there in black and white, the UK spend more on those 'London leeches' than any other region in the UK.

On this analysis, Scottish people do receive a public spending premium over all other UK citizens save those living in London. However, within England there is wide variations in per capita spending between different regions.

Factcheck: Are the English paying for lavish Scottish spending promises? | Full Fact

We leave and take our revenue income and you can get on without 'subsidising' the leeches as you put it. I know who my money is on to be better off in the long term future Troll, oops sorry I mean Wim.

An analysis published on January 4th by Financial Times Research showed that Scotland is the "most prosperous" part of the UK outside London and the South East of England, in terms of the 12 nations and regions of the UK. Scotland's economic output is 99 per cent of the UK average. The highest is London at 171 per cent, and the lowest is Wales at 74 per cent. (Gross Value Added per head of population in 2010.)

With the exception of London, Scotland is the only nation or region in the UK to show an increase in economic output between 2007 and 2010, recording growth of 1.9 per cent.

Business leaders join in referendum debate

Taking all Scottish revenues and spending into account – including financial sector interventions – the official Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland statistics show Scotland has run a current budget surplus in four of the five years to 2009/10, while the UK was in current budget deficit in each of these years, and hasn't run a current budget surplus since 2001/02.......

An independent Scotland with access to all our nation's resources will be the sixth most prosperous nation in the OECD league table – compared with the UK's number 16 placing..

Alex Salmond: False claims won't deny us our place in the family of nations - Commentators - Opinion - The Independent

[wim121]

I stopped reading after that bluster.

Bluster? No, it's history! Rather amusing history actually. Who wears wigs in a jungle?

[wim121]

If not for all the Eastern Europeans you now have bringing a huge crime wave with them plus the fact they most of them claim no end of state benefits. England is just a mongrel country with scroungers from the world over living there. Christ is was just on the Jeremy Vine show people complaining about all the Big Issue sellers who are now Romanians also claiming benefits and sending the the money back home.

A country should never lose it's identity nor have it's identity modified to suite immigrants.

I couldnt agree more with the above. I dont think we will ever willingly give NI and Scotland independence, no more than we would control asylum or welfare. A blissful country could be created but I doubt it ever will.

The problem with immigration crimes is terrible. Look at polish truck drivers, they can come over here, illegally go way over their driving hours, kill someone and then go home and escape the courts.

I would like England to be how it was. Now I realise that the day of white picket fences and maypoles has gone, but does it all need to go? We should hang on and cherish what makes us unique. Foreigners annoy me. Ive looked a lot at emigrating and when I visit other countries, or even consider living there, I try my best to speak their language, I acknowledge their customs and manners. That is the way it should be. Unlike foreigners who come in to this country, demand their own laws, even take away my sodding bacon from KFC because it isnt halal !

[SimonMac]

I wonder what the bill of health care in Norway is compared to Scotland?